Cranks but will not start

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Hi:

I watched the video. It should go right in. Make sure there is nothing blocking it from seating. Also, step back and determine what is hitting that is not allowing you to get the right position. It is something stupid, I can almost guarantee it. Also, compare the new sensor to the one you replaced. Make certain it is exact.

I will be on here for awhile yet tonight, so I will keep checking for your reply. Let me know what you find.

Also, you mentioned about a hose under the intake. Can you upload which hose you are referring to?

I have to tell you. Up to this point, it looks like you have done an excellent job. I have people working for me that are not that organized and neat about things. Just do not get frustrated, try again, step back and think what could be preventing you from getting it, and I bet you figure it out. There really is no trick. When installing it, try to turn it back and forth while applying light pressure.

I will keep my eye open for your reply.

Joe
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 8:02 PM
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Still cannot get cam sensor all the way in. Got it almost all the way at least and the hoses under throttle body I do not think I have ran correctly because it started the rpm's surged very high then stalled, lol. I hope you can get a clear understanding if which hoses from the video. Thanks
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Saturday, December 1st, 2018 AT 6:53 PM
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Hi Christa, it is Joe:

Your video is fine, but I cannot be sure what I am looking at. I am sorry However, lets try this a different way. Attached, I have put a total of four pictures. The first three are an exploded view of the top of the engine including the intake and all components. The last picture is of the evap system (vacuum routing). Take a look through that and see if you can identify any of the specific parts. The first three pictures are actually of the same schematic in the manual. I had to break it into there otherwise, you would not have been able to read it. I made sure to overlap each picture so you can see where it continues. If something is not clear or you need verification, let me know.

Also, did you compare the sensor to the original one? It should fully seat. Since you got it in that far, it should seat. I am questioning if it is different that the original one.

Let me know.

Joe
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Saturday, December 1st, 2018 AT 7:52 PM
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Got it started the other day and turned around after getting a ticket and was super happy. Anyways I parked it the right direction turned it off and back to square one it is just cranking again. Something was draining battery so replaced the alternator after it tested bad and replaced battery. That no long a probably reading 12 volts no problem on multi-meter I needed to replace app ( accelerator pedal position sensor) because it was pulling a code for that I got a good deal on the entire throttle body with the apps and other two sensors on front attached off of another gs300 exactly like mine off of the 5 mile app. That is what I put on. Any suggestions on what do to next?
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Monday, December 24th, 2018 AT 7:54 AM
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Hi Christa:

Is it still pulling the same code with the new parts?
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Monday, December 24th, 2018 AT 5:58 PM
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It is not pulling any codes at all when I hook it up to scanner, but still wont crank. It will sputter and act like it wants to but will not. I am so frustrated I could scream.
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Sunday, December 30th, 2018 AT 2:42 PM
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Okay, if you were here with the car, these are the things I would do and most likely in this order.

1) pull a couple spark plugs to see if they are wet or dry. If wet, suspect too much fuel pressure, bad coolant temperature sensor, pressure regulator problem, sticking injectors.

2) Check and confirm fuel pressure is within the manufacturer's specs.

3) If pump pressure was within spec, confirm a good hot spark to the plugs. Also, if you have a live data scanner, confirm a constant signal from the crankshaft position sensor while cranking.

4) Next, with a live data scanner, confirm the coolant temp sensor is accurate and not sending bad information to the PCM.

5) If in number 1 I found the plugs were dry, I would test for an injector pulse to confirm they are working.

6) If everything checks good, I would most likely remove O2 sensors to make sure I don't have a plugged exhaust.

Will the engine start if you use starting fluid? Also, were you able to get the cam sensor to seat properly? That works in conjunction with the crankshaft position sensor for engine and injection timing.

Let me know.

Joe
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Sunday, December 30th, 2018 AT 3:07 PM
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Hi, thanks I do not have either scanner you mentioned. Would it be a option to rent one? I did notice the oil smelled a little like gas I am thinking a stuck fuel injector, but would that cause a no start? And to fix I am assuming replacing the injectors then an oil change should be sufficient? I will take the plugs out and let you know tomorrow what I find on those.
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Saturday, January 5th, 2019 AT 9:54 PM
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Before replacing the injectors, I would first confirm the fuel pressure isn't too high. A bad regulator can cause it. Are you able to upload a picture of where you are seeing the leak?

Let me know what you find with the plugs. And yes, if it is dumping fuel, I would change the oil once you get this resolved.

Joe
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Saturday, January 5th, 2019 AT 10:55 PM
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Yes, they were wet and in way too tight. Broke one trying to get it out. Also started for a second with starter fluid.
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Sunday, January 6th, 2019 AT 1:27 PM
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Hi Christa:

If they are wet, either the plugs have a weak spark, the fuel pressure is too high, or the injectors are bad. However, it is odd that all would go at the same time. That leads me to believe either pressure is too high or the spark is weak.

With that in mind, check to see if the spark is a hot blue snapping spark. Also, check the pressure.

Let me know.

Joe
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Sunday, January 6th, 2019 AT 7:33 PM
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On second inspection they were dry. It was just wet around the plugs I cleaned them up and changed them. I do not have a live data scanner and O'riellys said they do not rent them. So is there anything I can do further without having to buy 100 scanner?
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Wednesday, January 9th, 2019 AT 2:50 PM
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I am defiantly smelling gas in oil not sure why or what that means.
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Wednesday, January 9th, 2019 AT 3:03 PM
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Hi Christa:

If you smell gas in the oil, then too much is getting put into the cylinders or the plugs are getting a hot enough spark to burn it. What happens is the raw fuel makes its way past the rings and into the oil.

Is there any reason to suspect a low compression issue?

Joe
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Wednesday, January 9th, 2019 AT 7:41 PM
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I tested a injector with noid light and got nothing. No flash. What would cause this?
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Saturday, January 12th, 2019 AT 2:47 PM
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Hi, Christa. I feel bad you are having so much trouble. I am going to do my best at trying to explain how this works.

First, on these vehicles, there should be power to each injector at all times. If you check, you will see a black/white wire going to each. That should have power with the key on. What happens is this. The power control module (PCM) provides a ground to each injector at specific times to complete the circuit. First, check if there is power to the black/white wire. If there is, then we may have a problem with the PCM. However, if there isn't power, I recommend checking a couple fuses. There is a 5 amp fuse on the driver's side junction box for the ignition. Check that and check the 25 amp EFI fuse in the engine room relay box. I have attached pictures for you to see. Also, I did my best to highlight the wires in question.

One last thing, check to make sure the ground in the engine area (black/white) wire is good and wasn't damaged. See the last picture I attached.

Do this and let me know what is found.

Take care, Joe
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Saturday, January 12th, 2019 AT 3:46 PM
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Okay, will a damaged wire to one injector cause a no start? Though I am just trying to clarify. If one injector would cause it not to start would it just run bad or not run at all? Just curious and and I will do that tomorrow. It has been pretty cold out and I do not have a garage.
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Saturday, January 12th, 2019 AT 4:52 PM
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Welcome back:

Take a look at picture 1. Note that all the injectors are tied into the black and white wire. If the wire is damaged before it gets to the injector, none will work.

Stay warm and let me know what you find.

Joe
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Saturday, January 12th, 2019 AT 10:00 PM
Tiny
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There is no picture attached?
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Monday, January 14th, 2019 AT 1:40 PM
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I'm sorry about that. Here it is.
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