Starts but won't stay running?

Tiny
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Hey thanks for your help. Low fuel pressure was the problem a new fuel pump took care of the problem.
Thanks Again!
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Tiny
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Okay. So, had an oil leak. Was leaking around the oil pump, so I replaced the seals and o-rings and no oil leak. So, I go to do a test drive, and I can't get this thing out of my garage! It will usually turn over, but when I accellerate or rev it up past 2000 RPM, it dies on me like it's out of gas. There is a full tank. I thought maybe it was the crank sensor, but when I replaced it, it didn't fix the problem. So I thought it was the throttle position sensor. Replaced that, no change. My MT2500 isn't showing any codes. I did look at what the TPS was doing, and it showed at an idle between 12.6 and when I pushed it, no more than 70. That's why I thought it was the TPS. I have not checked the fuel pressure yet. Right n ow, I have it up on two jack stands. I can start it, and then it sputters out like it's running out of gas, or sometimes it will idle for quite a while, but as soon as I gas it, it sputters out and dies. The fuel pump seems to be cycling as I can turn it on and off with my mt2500. Help! This woman needs her car back, and I"m at my wits end here.
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Monday, August 3rd, 2020 AT 11:45 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Okay, so I tried to keep it running with ether, and that didn't work either, so I don't know if it's a fuel system problem, or something else wrong with the engine. Help!
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Monday, August 3rd, 2020 AT 11:45 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Check the TPS voltage-closed should be 0.3-1.0 volts and WOT at 3.2-4.9volts. Also check the fuel pressure
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Monday, August 3rd, 2020 AT 11:45 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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I replaced the TPS already? And would the fuel pressure matter if I crimped it off and was trying to keep it going with just ether? Wouldn't that have made a difference if fuel pressure was the problem, meaning. Wouldn't I have been able to keep it running off the ether if fuel pressure was the problem? What should the map sensor show with the engine off? With the engine off, it's reading 93 VPA?
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Monday, August 3rd, 2020 AT 11:45 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Check the actual fuel pressure with and without vacuum to the regulator-crimping the return line should double the normal pressure-

MAP sensor voltage should be 4.5-5.5 volts not in specs check wiring-

Turn ignition on an applyvacuum to the MAP see below


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/12900_map_4.jpg

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Monday, August 3rd, 2020 AT 11:45 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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So I buy this 500 dollar fuel pressure gauge system from Snap On. Break the adapter it says to use within 5 minutes, get a replacement only to find out that the book says to use the wrong adapter. Use the right adapter, and the stupid gauge doesn't show anything, but I have pressure coming to the filter. *Twitchtwitch* If I disconnect the map sensor, I can get it to start and idle, but if I reconnect the map sensor, it shuts off. I don't quite see how I can check the voltage on the map sensor the way it is. Suggestions? It looks like if I disconnect it to check with the OHM meter, it doesn't make sense. Help?
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Monday, August 3rd, 2020 AT 11:45 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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My daughter's car has been completely dying while she's going down the highway. This only happens once a week or so and then it takes about 20 minutes for her to restart it.

She took it to one local mechanic and he couldn't figure out what was wrong because it wouldn't die on him. Then she took it to the Toyota dealer and they said it was the idle air control valve. They said it was fixed, but 2 days after she picked it up from Toyota it did it again.

She will be driving on the highway and then loses all power. Then it will crank 20-30 minutes later and then the problem will come up another 4 days to a week later.

Does anyone know what this is? I called Toyota today, but since it's the weekend they are not opened. I am 500 miles away from my 18 year old daughter and I don't know how to handle this. Does Toyota get to keep my money since this wasn't the problem?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Monday, August 3rd, 2020 AT 11:45 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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The MAP sensor operates exactly like the vacuum advance unit on the conventional distributor. Check the supply and output voltage to it-

Supply voltage 4.5-5.5 volts

Output voltage varies with vacuuum-check with a vacuum pump. See above chart.


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/12900_map_sensor_rav_1.jpg




https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/12900_map1_2.jpg

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Monday, August 3rd, 2020 AT 11:45 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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I would've suspected crank position sensor
and or fuel pump
but an idle air valve no

need manual CHECK IT @
https://www.2carpros.com/kpages/auto_repair_manuals.htm
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Monday, August 3rd, 2020 AT 11:45 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Replaced the map sensor. Didn't fix it. :( Could it be the cam sensor?
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Monday, August 3rd, 2020 AT 11:45 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Now, I can keep it running as long as I keep applying gas, but it won't stay running?
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Monday, August 3rd, 2020 AT 11:45 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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During replacement of TPS, did you calibrate it?
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Monday, August 3rd, 2020 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Recheck the idle air control valve/PCV and EGR valves-
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Monday, August 3rd, 2020 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
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My daughter's '97 Rav4 will stall when it is put in drive. I also noticed that it's hard to push the car in neutral. In fact, it's almost impossible to push it now.

I had the transmission worked on about a year ago. It wasn't shifting correctly.

There are no trouble code set.

Thanks for any help you can give me.

John
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Monday, August 3rd, 2020 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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What? How do you calibrate a throttle position sensor? Is it not self-calibrating?
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Monday, August 3rd, 2020 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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There is probably a problem with either the shift linkage or sometimes a cable is used in the shifter and that might need replacement. The shifter itself could be binding up.
My best advice is to take it to a transmission shop and not a regular repair facility. Automatic tranmission, especially in a RAV4, are difficult to work on and take special experience and tools to work on them. So, take the extra time to take it to a transmission spoecialist for repair.
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Monday, August 3rd, 2020 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Okay, the ICV is working and clean. I thought the ECM calibrates the TPS. The EGR has been un. Oh for Crying out loud. The stupid thing is now sending an error code saying it's the front ignition coil.

I swear.I'm going to shoot this stupid car. *Scream* Why the heck is it FINALLY sending up an error code now?

*twitchtwitchscream* Ok. *Breathe* Ignition coil will be here at 7:30 in the morning. Please pray for me guys.

-- Elizabeth --
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Monday, August 3rd, 2020 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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This answer was dead on. The boot on the shifter cable had come loose and kept the cable from moving correctly. A new cable fixed the problem.
Thanks
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Monday, August 3rd, 2020 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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FCOL, it's still doing the same thing. Do you think it might be a wiring issue?
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