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Tiny
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The colored links do not line up I HAVE spun it over and over and they never line up
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Saturday, January 21st, 2017 AT 11:59 AM
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Not a good thing. Sounds like it has slipped time as well as having a bad controller. The question now is, how far did it slip and did it do a lot of damage?

This might be helpful.
https://redlinespeedworx.com/2-0t-tsi-timing-chain-failure/
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Saturday, January 21st, 2017 AT 2:23 PM
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The cam marks line up on both sides meaning the front mark and the back of the cam it just the dark chain marks haven't got them to line up yet and when they are at the 12 o'clock position the cam marks are way off but could that cobtoller cause a no start the reason saying is it never had issue Drive a while and then boom wouldn't start like going to the store and came out no start
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Saturday, January 21st, 2017 AT 4:23 PM
Tiny
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And everything turns smoothly so just hard to justify the timing is bad and slipped a lot then with nothing happening just shut off car went to get back in and nothing
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Saturday, January 21st, 2017 AT 4:24 PM
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OK let's ignore the cams and go back to a "good" engine and start from scratch. I approached it as you had tested other items and had gotten to the code/timing as being the problem.

Run a compression test. It will tell you quick if the timing is off. If the compression is good then, Are you hearing the fuel pump prime? Run a pressure test and see what pressure the pump is putting out. Stick a spark tester on it and be sure it has spark.
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Sunday, January 22nd, 2017 AT 1:37 AM
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I have spark tested that and can hear the pump prime I got that code from the shop who looked at it first that's why I asked. I ordered the valve adjuster that was bad
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Sunday, January 22nd, 2017 AT 6:10 AM
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OK, I'd probably wait until you get the adjuster. Install it, and see if it will start. If it doesn't then run a compression and leak down test. If you wanted you could get the timing procedure and reset it using the parts you have now. That would probably give you the best shot. Be sure if you do that, check the tensioner first. They do fail a lot. Not sure what you have for information but these would get you the same info that shops use. I prefer Mitchell but don't let that sway your decision.

http://www.eautorepair.net/app/YearsMakes.asp (Mitchell1)
http://alldatadiy.com/
https://www.chiltondiymanuals.com/

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Sunday, January 22nd, 2017 AT 7:51 AM
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So basically that will walk me through how to set timing and even replace chain step by step. And I am going to install and see before I move further
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Sunday, January 22nd, 2017 AT 8:03 AM
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Yep. It has the complete procedure. It tells you a couple "special" tools are needed. Those are basically items to hold the chains in place as you work around them. You can use wire, tie wraps, string to do the same thing.
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Sunday, January 22nd, 2017 AT 2:26 PM
Tiny
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You mean the oil chains and other ones not the cam ones because don't they have to come off to reset timing
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Sunday, January 22nd, 2017 AT 4:44 PM
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The tools just hold the chains as you work so you can get them into place without needing three hands. You'll see what I mean when you look at the book procedure.
It's like the special tool they have to hold the tensioner compressed for installation. The "correct" tool is nothing but a hardened pin with a rubber cap. Great if you're going to do hundreds of cars and don't want to have tool wear, but a common nail will do the job for a LOT less money.
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Monday, January 23rd, 2017 AT 10:01 AM
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Now when I spin the engine it will not let me go any further than a certain point about TDC also cant find the step by step process to replace timing chains on Mitchell
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Friday, February 3rd, 2017 AT 6:23 PM
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So you put the chains in time but the engine won't turn over? Sounds like it is now either out of time or it did bend some valves.

Mitchell buries camshafts under Engine Mechanical -> Mechanical -> Cylinder Head _> removal. Then the engine code.

Which book exactly did you get, I'll see if the ones we access is different.
I know it's a 2012 VW Turbo 2.0 which I believe is engine code CCTA or CBFA. Which code are you using?
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Friday, February 3rd, 2017 AT 9:01 PM
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Not sure will check. No havent put the chain on getting ready to replace and retime. I need to know the steps to do so. The engine was rotating fine by hand for the time I had it. I rotated a few more now and saw the chain skip teeth and now hits a dead spot and cant rotate anymore is it becuase of the timing is way off causing the valve to hit how do I correct this?
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Friday, February 3rd, 2017 AT 9:19 PM
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Also how do I line the cams back up so they are both around the 12 oclock area so I can put the chain on again dont really understand the steps on mitchell I found them
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Friday, February 3rd, 2017 AT 9:31 PM
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And will nails work on the oil chain as well?
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Friday, February 3rd, 2017 AT 9:35 PM
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How do I get the cam sprockets to line up do I do it with the chain on or off also how do I fix only being able to spin the engine so far with the timing the way it is now to reset it?
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Friday, February 3rd, 2017 AT 9:57 PM
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Guess im asking what if I CANT spin to tdc also what if marks dont line up at the top when tdc? How do I reset the cam sprockets then to set timing
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Friday, February 3rd, 2017 AT 10:36 PM
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I think the timing is so off causing the valve to hit how do I correct that and can I move the cam to realign with the chain off or on?
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Saturday, February 4th, 2017 AT 10:17 AM
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OK, the cams are out of time so the valves are hitting. What you need to do is look at the lobes on each cam, which ones are pushing valves down? Find those, then determine which piston is up and hitting the valves. Gently rotate the crank backwards to allow you to move the cam(s) until the timing marks are correct on the crank and cams. It may take moving each a few times to prevent issues OR you could unbolt the cam saddles and lift the cams, rotate the crank to the proper position, install the cams in the proper positions. Then deal with installing the chains. Which is the way I would do it. Faster, easier and less chance of damage.

I've used wire to hold the chains up, nail(s) for the tensioners, Zip ties and other items to hold parts when I run out of hands.
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Saturday, February 4th, 2017 AT 11:22 AM

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