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On it tomorrow.
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Saturday, September 8th, 2018 AT 4:24 PM
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Okay, sounds like a plan. Keep us updated.

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Saturday, September 8th, 2018 AT 4:50 PM
Tiny
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Took out the pump I got a month or so ago, went to NAPA traded out the weak pump for a new one (Delphi), installed it, the truck started right up, ran a little high on the RPMs and the exhaust smelled a bit "lacquered". But I figured that was from the throttle body cleaner I had used to clean the throttle with. Ran well for ten to fifteen minutes, I wanted her to get up to operating temperature, my wife hollered out "shut that truck off, you are stinking up the house!". So I did, and now it will not restart. I am back to square one. I will borrow the fuel pressure gauge on Tuesday (weather permitting) and test again.
Might it be a bad fuel pressure regulator?
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Sunday, September 9th, 2018 AT 1:38 PM
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Check the pressure again before we speculate anything.

Roy
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Sunday, September 9th, 2018 AT 1:45 PM
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No problem. Glad to help.

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Sunday, September 9th, 2018 AT 2:10 PM
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Did a pressure test between rainstorms today, a strong 62-64 PSI, tried to start her again, nothing. What is next Roy?
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Tuesday, September 11th, 2018 AT 10:43 AM
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Okay, need to see if the PCM is grounding the injectors and commanding them to fire.

Do you have a noid light to check to see if the injector is being commanded on? If not, you can get one at a parts store.

Roy
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Tuesday, September 11th, 2018 AT 11:17 AM
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I will look into that. She ran great for about fifteen minutes on Sunday until I had to shut it down. Might it be the fuel pressure regulator?
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Tuesday, September 11th, 2018 AT 12:08 PM
Tiny
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Sorry to bother you Roy, I cannot seem to find any way to test a CSFI system with a noid light.
Could you send me some reference or guides?
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Tuesday, September 11th, 2018 AT 3:37 PM
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Does this have eight injectors or just two on the throttle body?

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Tuesday, September 11th, 2018 AT 3:41 PM
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8 poppet valves in a CSFI.
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Tuesday, September 11th, 2018 AT 11:41 PM
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Okay, that system you cannot check with a noid.

Do you have a full blown scan tool that can read live data for the injectors?

Roy
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Wednesday, September 12th, 2018 AT 4:22 AM
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Like an OBD II?
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Wednesday, September 12th, 2018 AT 3:40 PM
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Yes, an OBD2 scanner. Not a code reader, but a full scan tool that can access all the modules.

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Wednesday, September 12th, 2018 AT 3:44 PM
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Got it. I will see if NAPA rents one out on Sunday.
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Wednesday, September 12th, 2018 AT 11:25 PM
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Okay, keep us updated.

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Thursday, September 13th, 2018 AT 5:22 AM
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Good morning Roy,

I went to NAPA and borrowed their OBD II reader and fuel pressure test kit on Sunday, I hooked up the reader, and got some old memory codes and erased them, went to turn the key to get new "live codes" and she started right up, let her run for an hour or so with no issues other than black smoke and a funky turpentine/lacquer smell, took her out for a "test drive" and everything seemed to work ok, with only a couple of minor backfires.
I let the truck rest for a half an hour, for the fuel and vacuum pressure to relax, it started right back up. Let it rest again for three hours and it started back up again but with some choking out after five minutes, touched the throttle and it came out of it. I checked the codes again and only got one for a bad O2 sensor which is broken.
Back when the no starts began I poured a bottle of Lucas fuel system cleaner into the tank (about half full, fifteen gallons) with all the cranking over and allowing her to sit afterward, maybe it loosened something up. From what I have read, black smoke, some uneven idle, a few backfires, and no start are all signs of a bad fuel pressure regulator. What is your opinion?
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Monday, September 17th, 2018 AT 12:36 AM
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Good morning.

First of all never, never ignore inactive codes. They could be a clue. Erasing them was a big mistake because they contained vital freeze frame information.

What O2 code? O2 codes do not mean the sensor is bad at all.

What was the fuel pressure?

Yes, it could be the regulator but it is part of the spider.

Roy
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Monday, September 17th, 2018 AT 4:33 AM
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I have a broken O2 sensor. I noticed it when I reinstalled my transmission this spring, but it ran well without it. 62-64PSI Yes, here is a good quality video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Iipjvif0Y
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Monday, September 17th, 2018 AT 2:11 PM
Tiny
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Well Roy, she is starting right up just like always, but she is showing all of the tell-tale signs of a bad fuel pressure regulator.
I am going to start driving it into work again today, praying it gets me home again.
NAPA wants $65.00 for a new fuel pressure regulator. I have found some online for as low as $15.00, but it is going to be a pain in the backside to replace. I am going to stick with the ACDelco when I do it I will let you know what happens, so you may help others later on.
If you are ever in Maine, swing by and I will buy you a coffee or something.
Thanks
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