No starter operation is not working why?

Tiny
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First, make sure the starter is tight. After that, you may have to shim the starter to work properly. It is unusuall that it works correctly for a couple weeks then starts to give you trouble. If it was up to me, I would remove the starter and see if there is any odd wear on the flywheel or the starter drive gear.

Let me know what you find.
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Thursday, December 31st, 2020 AT 9:29 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Thanks for the advise.

The starter was tight, I took off the starter and checked each tooth on the starter and the flywheel. They look all brand new, seems like the teeth on the starter are barely coming into contact with the flywheel. All the wiring looked fine. I had a friend come over and look at it and he has never seen one with a solenoid on the starter and one on the right hand side of the fender inside the hood. The solenoid on the fender is brand new too. There is two battery cable size wires hooked to the solenoid under the hood. one running from the battery to the solenoid and one running from other side of solenoid to the starter. There is also a smaller wire running to who knows where. there is also a small wire running from the side that goes to the starter down to the starter.

I have uploaded a photo i did in photoshop to help understand what I am talking about.

This is not the actual solenoid, but you get the idea.


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/422639_solenoid_1.jpg



If this does not help, I can take some actual photos of the solenoid and starter.

THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP!
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Thursday, December 31st, 2020 AT 9:29 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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It almost sounds like the starter needs shimmed.
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Thursday, December 31st, 2020 AT 9:29 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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The problem(same as yesterday) is still nothing, just a click when I turn the key, interior lights, radio works, windows up and down, yes lights dim when key is turned to start.
I have tried a boost, changed batteries, solenoid, starter, fuse able link, and I bought it in Oct, and was told of wiring problem, and haven't had problem until 2 days ago.
I am wondering if it's the ignition actuator switch, I am at wits end.
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Thursday, December 31st, 2020 AT 9:30 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Use a digital multimeter across battery posts, everything off, take reading. The generic spec for a full charge is around 12.6 volts.

Next I'd have to check voltage at the starter motor circuits. Any testing at the starter motor, make sure tranny is in park or neutral and a functional parking brake is set.

If you have already been talking to somebody else, stay on the same post. The person you were talking to will be notified your asking another question. If you make a new post, they won't know except by accident.

You sound like your getting frustrated, calm down, back off a little and think about it. If there is a problem on wiring circuit somewhere, replacing parts won't fix it.
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Thursday, December 31st, 2020 AT 9:30 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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I found this wiring diagram. You see the relay, the load side, the load side of relay is the arm with the arrowhead on it. When the relay is activated that arm moves to the other terminal carries voltage to starter motor.

The relay part I looked at, the two large terminals are main power terminals. The smaller terminal should be relay control. If you use two large shank screwdrivers, the screwdrivers will carry a lot of amps. Touch one screwdriver to each large terminal, let the screwdriver shanks touch each other, the starter motor should crank. If it cranks at least you know that part of the system is ok and the engine isn't seized. If the key is on when you try this, it may start. Just make sure the tranny is out of gear and parking brake is set before testing. There are safety issues with trying this. Safety is your responsibility. I can't see what your doing from here.
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Thursday, December 31st, 2020 AT 9:30 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Thanks for the advice, and about posting.I am getting a reply from another, and will stay with then, Thanks again
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Thursday, December 31st, 2020 AT 9:30 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hope you get it going your way.
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