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Is there a special holding tool for the crankshaft pulley? I tried to find one T advance auto, but they don't have one for this car.
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Friday, October 15th, 2021 AT 10:06 AM
Tiny
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Or maybe it doesn't need to remove it actually, I turned the crank until the loose part of the belt is around the tensioner, I can the the move the tensioner and install the new one, correct?
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Friday, October 15th, 2021 AT 10:24 AM
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I also checked on the new assembly I installed, I did torque it to 23 ft/lbs not in/lbs as it didn't make sense, I just forgot that I did.
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Friday, October 15th, 2021 AT 2:51 PM
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Hi,

Good to hear about the torque. Also, you shouldn't need a special tool. If you are able to replace the tensioner with the removal of the belt, just make sure the timing marks are in the correct positions when you put it back together.

What I would do is get all marks aligned. Then, install the new tensioner and recheck the marks.

Let me know.

Joe
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Friday, October 15th, 2021 AT 5:45 PM
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So, is it okay to turn the harmonic with the tensioner off? I forgot to do so before I removed it, I can't remove the belt as I don't have a way of getting the crank pulley off.
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Friday, October 15th, 2021 AT 6:00 PM
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Hi,

Only turn the crank if the belt is attached and timed correctly. The engine is an interference engine, and you don't want to damage valves or pistons. The only way to turn it independently (crank only) the rocker arm assembly needs to be removed so none of the valves are open or can open.

Let me know exactly what is happening. I may have a few tricks up my sleeve. LOL

Take care,

Joe
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Friday, October 15th, 2021 AT 8:32 PM
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The belt is still on but not the tensioner. I would not like to install the tensioner to then find out am out a tooth. Is the mark on the crank pulley as well or I got to remove it to see it?
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Friday, October 15th, 2021 AT 9:09 PM
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I think I will remove both rocker assemblies, and have both cams lined up, and do the sane for the crank, but is there a mark on these harmonic balancers? How can I remove the pulley without a special tool as it will turn if I try to do so?
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Saturday, October 16th, 2021 AT 7:49 AM
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Guessing while both rocker assemblies off. I can turn the camshafts to line them up with no issues since nothing would cause them to open and hit the cylinders.
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Saturday, October 16th, 2021 AT 10:49 AM
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Hi,

If the rocker assemblies are removed, you can turn the cams or the crank independently. As far as the harmonic balancer/crank pulley, I don't believe there is a mark on it. Check to see if there is a small V cut out of the pulley. If there is, then check to see if there is an indicator on the timing cover. If both are missing, it needs to be removed.

All you need is a standard wheel puller. Most parts stores will lend one to you.

I attached the directions below for the removal of the pulley.

Let me know if this helps or if you have other questions.

Take care,

Joe

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Saturday, October 16th, 2021 AT 8:42 PM
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Does this look right?
And I guess I don't have to worry about valves for now since they are all closed, meaning even if I rotate the cam 180 degrees now it won't matter, right?
What about the crankshaft mark, how do I confirm its TDC and not 180 degrees off as it is, all yellow marks are from previous installation and I aligned them all. Once the tensioner is on the left cam will pull a bit to the left to align.
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Thursday, October 21st, 2021 AT 1:31 PM
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Yes, with all valves closed, you can rotate it. As far as the timing marks, the left bank does look slightly off, but I do see play in the belt. Also, I can't see the crankshaft for certain (pic 4) because of the angle.

As long as the crankshaft marks are good, you won't be 180 out.

Joe
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Thursday, October 21st, 2021 AT 6:47 PM
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Thanks. Hmm, I heard that you can be off 180 on some engines even with the mark lined up, unless am mistaken.
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Thursday, October 21st, 2021 AT 6:56 PM
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And so, if I release the tensioner I am off one tooth I'm bumming, lol.
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Thursday, October 21st, 2021 AT 6:57 PM
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If it is one tooth off, it won't run properly. If it is one tooth off, release the tensioner and move the pulley so it aligns.

Once you get it back together (rocker assemblies) turn the engine a few revolutions by hand to make sure it turns easily.

Take care,

Joe
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Thursday, October 21st, 2021 AT 7:05 PM
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Am done. So, it's much quieter now. Still hear a bit but that may have to do with mileage and lower oil and pressure comparing it to one with lower mileage.
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Sunday, October 24th, 2021 AT 4:18 PM
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See if you can tell the difference between this one and the first video I posted. Very strange that without a belt no lights on the dash.
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Sunday, October 24th, 2021 AT 4:19 PM
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Hi,

Wow, that sounds a lot better. Was the engine warm in that video? I listened to the first ones you sent, and it certainly is quieter.

Let me know.

Joe
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Sunday, October 24th, 2021 AT 6:19 PM
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Half way warm, didn't want to make it fully warm until I add some coolant and install the fans.
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Sunday, October 24th, 2021 AT 6:30 PM
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I think you got it taken care of. Also, if it was low on coolant, I don't blame you for not wanting to let it reach operating temperature.

Regardless, great job. I'm glad you got it fixed. Please feel free to come back anytime in the future if you have questions or need help.

Take care,

Joe
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