The engine stalled while driving?

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I have a Dodge charger which was jump started and while driving the engine cut off and moved to park locking rear wheels. Is this as it should be or should it have stay in gear or have moved to neutral to enable to be parked safly
Friday, September 20th, 2013 AT 7:38 AM

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Tiny
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It sounds like the crankshaft sensor or fuel pump is going out but to be sure lets check out his guide to help us fix it. When you turn the key to the on position without cranking the engine over can you hear the fuel pump run in the tank for 5 seconds?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

Please run down this guide and report back.
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Friday, September 20th, 2013 AT 8:06 AM
Tiny
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The guide really helped, I got a new crankshaft sensor and the engine has not stalled yet! Thank you.
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Friday, September 20th, 2013 AT 9:35 AM
Tiny
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Not too long ago I noticed there was a hole in the splash fabric the car has connected to the chassis in the space that the rear right wheel goes in. In that hole I noticed there was a like a computer chip looking sensor that was broken from a rock, I assume, and now my car is constantly shutting off on me because it's causing shorts in the battery. I would like to know what sensor that is because I can't seem to find it anywhere.
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Saturday, August 15th, 2020 AT 10:20 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hello,

Can you please take a picture of the sensor and upload it here for us?

Thanks,
Alex
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Saturday, August 15th, 2020 AT 10:20 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Which wheel is this? More then likely it is speed sensor but we will more than likely need to remove the liner and see if it is actually damaged. However, if you have a short then it could because a battery draw which will cause it to drain.

Here is the process to remove the wheel liner and once it is out, get a picture of this sensor and I will be able to identify it for you. Thanks
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Saturday, August 15th, 2020 AT 10:20 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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I ended up taking what was left of it out and realized it was the Tire Pressure Monitoring Module
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Saturday, August 15th, 2020 AT 10:20 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Okay. Thanks for the update. Glad you figured it out. Please come back and use 2CarPros in the future.
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Saturday, August 15th, 2020 AT 10:20 AM (Merged)
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When cold runs perfect when it gets warm it vibrates and shuts down.
I changed all spark plugs and coils ran Thur scan say misfire 301.
I did see a piece of rubber around the spark plug that I thought was suppose to be there not sure now because the others didn’t have it. I found the rubber around the first spark plug position I have no idea what it is. Please help. Also which is the first cylinder? Thanks
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Saturday, August 15th, 2020 AT 10:21 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Welcome to 2CarPros.

I suspect you have two different things happening. The P0301 indicates a cylinder 1 misfire, so I suspect the piece of rubber you find belongs to the insulator on the coil pack. That would allow it to arc and misfire.

Now, the stalling when warm sounds like a bad crankshaft position sensor. Take a look through these links to better understand its purpose, symptoms, and in general how one is replaced.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-a-crank-shaft-angle-sensor-works

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/symptoms-of-a-bad-crankshaft-sensor

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/crankshaft-angle-sensor-replacement

What to do is check if there is spark to the plugs when it won't start or using a live data scanner, see if there is an RPM signal when cranking. Here are a few more links you may find helpful:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-an-ignition-system

If you determine the crankshaft position sensor is bad, here are the directions specific to your vehicle for removal and replacement. The attached pictures correlate with the directions.
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2009 Dodge Charger V6-2.7L
Crankshaft Position Sensor - Removal
Vehicle Powertrain Management Sensors and Switches - Powertrain Management Sensors and Switches - Computers and Control Systems Crankshaft Position Sensor Service and Repair Removal and Replacement Crankshaft Position Sensor - Removal
CRANKSHAFT POSITION SENSOR - REMOVAL
2.7L

pic 1

1. Disconnect negative battery cable.
2. Raise vehicle and support.

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3. Unlock and disconnect the electrical connector.
4. Remove mounting bolt.
5. Remove sensor.

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2009 Dodge Charger V6-2.7L
Crankshaft Position Sensor - Installation
Vehicle Powertrain Management Sensors and Switches - Powertrain Management Sensors and Switches - Computers and Control Systems Crankshaft Position Sensor Service and Repair Removal and Replacement Crankshaft Position Sensor - Installation
CRANKSHAFT POSITION SENSOR - INSTALLATION
2.7L

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NOTE: If reinstalling the sensor, check the sensor O-ring for damage and replace if necessary. Lubricate the O-ring with clean engine oil before installing the sensor.

1. Push the crankshaft position (CKP) sensor into the transmission case with a twisting motion until fully seated.

CAUTION: Before tightening the sensor mounting bolt, be sure the sensor is completely flush to the mounting surface. If the sensor is not flush, damage to the sensor mounting tang may result.

2. While holding the sensor in this position, install and tighten the retaining bolt to 9 Nm (79.5 in. lbs.).
3. Connect and lock the electrical connector to the CKP sensor.
4. Connect the negative battery cable and tighten nut to 5 Nm (45 in. lbs.).

NOTE: The Cam/Crank Variation Relearn procedure must be performed anytime there has been a repair/replacement made to a powertrain system, for example: flywheel, valvetrain, camshaft and/or crankshaft sensors or components See: Engine Control Module > Programming and Relearning > PCM/ECM Reprogramming

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If the sensor is replaced, the relearn / reprogramming will be required. This will require specific tooling to be done and you may not have the scanner to do it.

Let me know if you have other questions or need help.

Take care,
Joe

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Saturday, August 15th, 2020 AT 10:21 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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I was driving my vehicle and it just cut off like it ran I out gas. I put gas in it and it still will not crank. I change the spark plugs and the ignition coils they put I new throttle body on it and a crank sensor and it still will not crank. Can you guys help?

Car listed above is the SXT model.
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Saturday, August 15th, 2020 AT 10:21 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hi,

I assume when you say it won't crank, you mean it won't start? Because all the parts you put on have to do with cranking. When you turn the key does the engine turn over but won't start running or does it not do anything?

If this is the case, we need to find out if you have spark. Hold a spark plug against the engine block and see if there is a spark. If not, then we know what direction to go.

An engine needs spark at the right time, fuel, and compression to run. I assume you have compression because this is not a sudden thing to lose but spark and fuel could be. Spark is the easiest to verify and then we can go from there. Thanks

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-cranks-excessively-before-starting

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Saturday, August 15th, 2020 AT 10:21 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Yes, the engine turns over but it still will not start.
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Saturday, August 15th, 2020 AT 10:21 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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It sounds like it is out of gas but it has gas in there.
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Saturday, August 15th, 2020 AT 10:21 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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The car is not get a spark so what could it be?
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Saturday, August 15th, 2020 AT 10:21 AM (Merged)
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At First the electronic throttle light would come on Then go off for a little while. Then it started stalling When I would try to crank it. Then One day it wouldn't crank at All while trying to Start it the red security light would come on but that's it No Radio No Power in the Windows etc. Took it to the dealership. They ordered a Part ignition switch node. Now its starting but keeps shutting off. Please help
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Saturday, August 15th, 2020 AT 10:21 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hello,

This is common when the throttle body gets dirty and cause the PCM to shut the engine down because of correlation issues. Here is a guide that explains it and how to fix it.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/reduced-power-limp-mode

The security light came on becasue the battery was low and then replaced just reset the system

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-reset-a-security-system

This guide can help as well.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

Please run down these guides and report back.

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Saturday, August 15th, 2020 AT 10:21 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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This could be a number of things but the most likely cause is the crankshaft position sensor.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/symptoms-of-a-bad-crankshaft-sensor

Keep in mind that if you replace this sensor that you will need to perform a relearn with a scan tool. If you don't have one that can do this, just make arrangements to have that done.
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Saturday, August 15th, 2020 AT 10:21 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Wow you nailed it I ad this problem and I serviced the throttle bore, it was filthy. Worked like a charm. I love this site.
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Saturday, August 15th, 2020 AT 10:21 AM (Merged)
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While driving turning a corner. My car shut down on me. Do you know what the problem is? It is very strange.
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Saturday, August 15th, 2020 AT 10:21 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hey DMAILADDI02,

I have seen this problem before this is what I want you to do, lift the hood and while the engine is running grab the wiring harness from around the engine compartment and move them. One of them is shorting to ground and stalling the engine. Please let me know what you find.
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