I have recently noticed my brake lights have been not working?

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On my 99 Dodge ram my brake lights are not working, the turn signals work, the running lights work, the hazard, the headlamps work, all the lights work except for the brake. I replaced the 20 amp fuse under the hood I replaced every other fuse or relay you can think of and the brake switching the pedal. I have no idea what it can be at this point.
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Does the brake light over the rear window work? If not, check for voltage on the pink / dark blue wire on the brake light switch, then on the white / tan wire. The first one should have 12 volts all the time. The second one should have 12 volts when the brake pedal is pressed.

If the center high-mount brake light works, the brake light switch is okay. The suspect then is the turn signal switch.
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Great addition to this thread! Please feel free to help out whenever you are on the site :)

Cheers, Ken
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 6:22 PM (Merged)
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Thank you for getting back to me so quick it ended up actually being the brake switch, I replaced it but one of the pins on the inside was bent wrong. On the new switch so it did not work. Corrected the problem and it works great now thanks again for all your help
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 6:22 PM (Merged)
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Dandy. Happy to hear it's solved.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 6:22 PM (Merged)
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Brake light not turning on
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 6:22 PM (Merged)
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Does the high-mount brake lite work? If none of the brake lites work, check applicable fuse. Also, check voltage to and from the brake switch. In the diagram, the top wire is voltage to the brake switch, hot all the time. The bottom wire is voltage from the brake switch, when brake switch is activated. Note the diagram.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 6:22 PM (Merged)
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Whenever I applied my brakes it blows my brake light fuse change the switch still does it. Any help please
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 6:23 PM (Merged)
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If the fuse doesn't blow until you press the brake pedal, that proves the brake light switch is okay. Even if the switch was shorted, the symptom would be the brake lights stay on all the time. You have something shorted after the brake light switch. That is what we have to find.

Before you do anything else, check if there is a trailer wiring harness added on and if those wires are chewed up.

The first thing to do to narrow down which circuit needs to be diagnosed is to observe there are three separate circuits. There's the left rear brake light, the right rear brake light, and the center high-mount brake light. As luck would have it, the two rear brake lights are the same ones used for the turn signals. If either of those circuits are shorted, the turn signal fuse will blow when that side is activated. See if the signals work on both sides or if one side is dead.

Once the shorted circuit is identified, it is too costly an ineffective to keep throwing new fuses at it. Instead, plug in a pair of universal crimp-type spade terminals in place of the blown fuse, then use a pair of small clip leads to connect them to a small 12-volt bulb. A 3057 brake light bulb works well for this type of circuit. The bulb will limit current to a safe one amp. When the circuit is turned on and the short is present, the bulb will be full brightness and hot, so be careful what it is laying against. Now you can move things around and unplug connectors to see what makes the short go away. When the short is out of the circuit, the bulb will go dim, and you may see the other brake lights turn on very dimly. The first drawing shows using the bulb in place of the fuse.

The second diagram shows the brake light switch. The short has to be someplace after the blue arrow. That circuit goes directly to the center high-mount brake light, but it has to go through the turn signal switch to get to the two rear brake lights. If you follow the white / tan wire to the right and up, it goes to terminal 14 of the turn signal switch. In the third diagram, the blue arrow shows terminal 14 again, and if you follow it around through the switch assembly, it comes out on terminals 15 and 12 when the switch is at rest. Those are the two individual rear brake light circuits. The triangles with "C" and "D" inside indicate the circuits are continued on the next diagram.

Diagram four continues those circuits to the rear brake light bulbs. These are the two circuits where the short has to be, or it is on the circuit going to the center high-mount light shown in the second diagram.

If you haven't identified which of the three circuits has the short, consider unplugging the connector from the back of the turn signal switch. There is usually a bolt to remove, then the plug can be pulled out. That will isolate the two rear brake / turn signal circuits from the fuse or test bulb. If the test bulb is only dim now when you press the brake pedal, the short is not in the circuit. You can put a new fuse in and observe the center brake light works properly.

Let me know what you find up to this point, then we'll figure out where to go next.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 6:23 PM (Merged)
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No brake lights. I tried everything a man can think of with no success.
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Hello,

Please check out this guide:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/brake-lights-not-working

Please run down this guide and report back.
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The right and left brake lights on the truck do not work when the headlights are turned on (center brake light no problems). The running tail lights work until the brakes are applied. The trailer brake plug seems to work fine. When the headlights are turned off the brakes work fine. The fuses are fine the bulbs are new. Reverse lights do not get power at all.
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Good morning,

I would check the bulbs and make sure they aren't in backward which would make the parking lights bright and the brake lights dim.

Check the sockets as they may be corroded with dirt. Clean them out to be sure.

Check the grounds to be sure they are clean and tight.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

Roy

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We have checked all that and those things are not the problem.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 6:23 PM (Merged)
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Then you need to go back over it as you missed something.

How did you check it and what were your results?

Roy
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Headlights horn and brake lights do not work.
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Take a look at the fusible link L1 If it is burnt/corroded you lose all of those or if the circuit has failed to it. Easy way to test if it is related to that is to check for power at fuses 7, 8 and 9 as they are the system feeds for those items.
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I do not have any breaklights though, all my other lights work including the hazards. I replaced the break switch with no luck. I checked for power/ground over the four wire plug and get nothing, I do get continuity over the 2 wire plug from the break switch to ground. Just not sure what/where to check next.
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The combination switch. Or the turn signal switch, the brake light signal goes from switch to turn signal switch to brake lights
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 6:23 PM (Merged)
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No power at all at the brake switch. Checked all the wires to ground from the switch.

Four terminal plug
Blue/Red tracer - open to ground
White/Red tracer - open to ground
White - open to ground
Blue - open to ground

two terminal plug
Pink - no power - continuity to ground
White - no power - continuity to ground

removed the brake switch and rechecked with same results.

Would it matter if the turn signal works as well as the hazards and running lights?
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