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The ground for the control side is on the diagram. It is pin 43.

Again, the high pressure switch is grounded externally, not by the ECM. It is G100 as in the diagram.

I attached the location for you.

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Tuesday, November 3rd, 2020 AT 1:11 PM
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Where does the high pressure switch go on the ECM? What color of connector is it and what pin terminal?

Where does the AC Request go on the ECM? What color of connector is it and what pin terminal?

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Tuesday, November 3rd, 2020 AT 1:44 PM
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Pin 11 on the ECM. It supplies voltage to the high pressure switch. Check for voltage with the key in the on position.

I attached the diagram for you of the AC request. I highlighted the wire for you.

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Tuesday, November 3rd, 2020 AT 2:08 PM
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But you said the diagram was generic. What Pin is the AC request?
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Tuesday, November 3rd, 2020 AT 4:01 PM
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The pin is identified in the diagram and the wire color.

All you need to do to confirm is check for power to the high side switch with the key on. If there is power, the ECM is sending the voltage.

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Tuesday, November 3rd, 2020 AT 4:05 PM
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But you said the diagram was generic. I want to test at the ECM by back probing the Pin. What Pin is the AC request?
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Tuesday, November 3rd, 2020 AT 5:49 PM
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Correct. There are some things that you do not have.

I have already told you the pin is marked in the diagram I sent you but you need to test for voltage to the high pressure switch. If you have power, there is no reason to test the pin at the ECM.

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Tuesday, November 3rd, 2020 AT 5:57 PM
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I tested for voltage at the high pressure switch 2 weeks ago. I want to test the high pressure switch at the ECM. The high pressure switch is an input device. When the Freon pressure is below 375 psi the switch will be closed. Therefore the voltage can't be 12 volts when the switch is connected to ground. So if the high pressure circuit is working correctly and the pressure is below 375 psi the voltage at the ECM Pin (where the high pressure switch terminates) will be zero. Your diagram doesn't indicate the Pin number. Again what pin is the high pressure switch at the ECM?
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Tuesday, November 3rd, 2020 AT 6:58 PM
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Okay, that was 2 weeks ago and this is now.

Retest the voltage to be sure.

No, the voltage will always be 12 volts to the switch whether the switch is open or closed. The difference is when the switch is grounded.

The ECM pin is where it originates, not terminates.

It is pin 11 on C2 connector. I reattached it again for you.

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Wednesday, November 4th, 2020 AT 4:07 AM
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I'm sorry, but I don't remember seeing an image like that. This is much clearer than the others.

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Wednesday, November 4th, 2020 AT 6:36 AM
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It is the same. I just enlarged it to be clearer.

You are welcome.

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Wednesday, November 4th, 2020 AT 6:38 AM
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Can I get the rest of that image enlarged like that? Much easier to see on the Phone.

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Wednesday, November 4th, 2020 AT 9:25 AM
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I would not use your phone. I would use a laptop or desktop and print it out.

I enlarged the other sections and attached them for you.

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Wednesday, November 4th, 2020 AT 11:50 AM
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Pin 11 High Pressure switch has power all the time.
Pin 17 AC request is grounded all the time. When the AC button light on or off Pin 17 is grounded, checked both ways 3 times each.
Pin 55 Low Pressure switch is grounded all the time. Unless I unplug the low pressure switch then it would have power.
Pin 43 never changed to a ground.

I think Pin 17 being grounded all the time is an issue. I wasn't sure if I could unplug the connector from the ECU and then check for ground on the ECM.

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If Pin 11, 17, and 55 are grounded is ECM supposed to ground Pin 43?

I live in Calgary, Alberta, Canada and the days are getting colder. Is there a minimum temperature that needs to be reached for the AC to operate? When it gets colder out the AC Button light just flashes 3 times when depressed.

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Saturday, November 7th, 2020 AT 7:44 AM
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I did ground Pin 11 while back probing, but Pin 43 didn't change to ground.
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Saturday, November 7th, 2020 AT 7:46 AM
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Pin 11 is a power supply which I stated many times. Why would you ground a power?

I figured that. This is why I said the ECM is the failure all along.

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Saturday, November 7th, 2020 AT 7:54 AM
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Isn't Pin 11 ground by the high pressure switch during normal operation?
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Saturday, November 7th, 2020 AT 3:41 PM
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On the diagram you provided Pin 11 is the high pressure switch. It's not a power supply.
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Saturday, November 7th, 2020 AT 3:45 PM
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Pin 55 is the low pressures switch. Pin 55 has power when the low pressure switch is unplugged, but is grounded by the switch when plugged back in. Which I think is normal.
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Saturday, November 7th, 2020 AT 3:48 PM
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Pin 11 is supply power to the high pressure switch. When the switch closes, the other side goes to ground. The power will remain on the positive side. Once power is consumed the ground side goes to 0.

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