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Hey mike.

I'm not showing a connector on my wiring diagram as you know. So heres what I need to know !

On your photo you have a blu/white wire marked as #14 what color wire goes to this on the other part of the connector also the same for the other 2. What color goes tor the red #13 and what color goes to the yellow # 12. What are the color of the wires coming from the car to this connector? I also need you to locate the actual H/L switch connector past this junction block up on the arm and tell me how many wires you have going to just this switch ! Remove the big grey plug on the arm and see if the connectors are numbered. Let me know
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Wednesday, March 11th, 2009 AT 9:26 AM
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The wire #14 is red/white there are little blue dots on the wire so that's why it may seem blue. The other side of the connecter is red/black. The #13 red wire has a red/yellow on the other side of the connecter. The #12 red/yellow wire has a red/black on the other side of the connecter. When you say switch up on the arm, are you refering to the actual combination switch under the steering wheel? If so then the on/off switch has 3 wires a red and 2 whites, the wires on the dimmer part of the switch are red/white, red/yellow, black/white, blue/red. I didn't see any #'s on the wires. I hope I understood you right. If not let me know.
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Wednesday, March 11th, 2009 AT 1:01 PM
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Hey Mike.

Sorry not replied sooner .. work/family commitments !! .. well I have looked at the pictures and your last post .. and I have to say i'm even more confused ..LOL .. none of the wires we have on our diagrams are matching up with your wires ... are you sure this is a 1995 toyota camry .. LOL .. could you supply the VIN # of the vehicle while I have a think about where to go/do next and study the post's again !!!

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Wednesday, March 11th, 2009 AT 8:48 PM
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I need to know how many and what colors the wires are here !!


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Wednesday, March 11th, 2009 AT 9:35 PM
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The wires are red/yellow, red/white, black/white, blue/red, and then there are 3 green wires for the turn signals ( 2 green/white & 1 green/black) Vin# 4t1sk12c3su496838 the title says 95 camry
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Wednesday, March 11th, 2009 AT 9:54 PM
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OK it is a 95 2.2L LE camry from kentucky ? Well even though the wiring colors are different we have to go with NO DRL as there are only 4 wires coming from the switch !! the black/white is ground to chassis .. the red/yellow must be to the intergration relay and onto (black/red wire ?) the H/L relay #4 pin the other 2 wires red/white and blue red we do not really need to worry about as they seem to be working correctly but i'm guessing the blue/red is to the #4 relay pin also and the red/white is the ground from dimmer to H/L high beam bulbs ?? does this sound about right to you ? let me know ..

ALSO do you still have a jumper wire on #1 and #3 on the relay but all other wires are as should be no jumpers anywhere else ?? everything is back in place correctly ??

let me know


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Wednesday, March 11th, 2009 AT 10:33 PM
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Everything sounds OK except I don't know about the blue/red wire as to whether it goes to the #4 pole or not. I took the jumper off 1&3. Here's something else I learned a little while ago. My grandaughter told me she always left the light switch on and the lights would automatically come on when she started the car and then when she stopped the car and opened the door and got out the lights would shut off.
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Wednesday, March 11th, 2009 AT 10:45 PM
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I know we are going over old ground .. but could you check voltage @ #1 and #3 now (no jumper) then put the relay back in .. and test light switches all positions ...

If you have no voltage @ #3 jumper it again so we definately have 12 volts @ #1 and #3 then test the lights again ...

If the lights are not working correctly !! put a jumper wire form the RED/YELLOW wire connector PIN on the SWITCH ITSELF .. NOT the multi connector .. then try the lights again ... let me know ... I realise it is getting late so let me know if you are going to do this in the morning ??


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Wednesday, March 11th, 2009 AT 10:58 PM
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That's a good idea.I'll do what you ask 1st thing in the morning. Goodnight
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Wednesday, March 11th, 2009 AT 11:03 PM
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Dave and I conversed on this earlier and I think what he meant was: 3rd paragraph.
If the lights are not working correctly ! Put a jumper wire from the RED/YELLOW wire connector PIN on the SWITCH ITSELF. NOT the multi connector--- (connect the other end of this wire to terminal "4" on the HL relay)---. Then try the lights again. Let me know ETC.
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Thursday, March 12th, 2009 AT 12:27 AM
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Hi James: I thought maybe you had given up on me. I have a question before I connect the red/yellow up to #4 pole. With #3 pole jumped to #1 then #4 shows 12 volts so if I connect #4 to the red/yellow, wouldn't it be like shorting it to ground? Also James what do you think about the lights coming on and off automatically with the car being started. Do you think there might be another relay in the circuit that makes this happen?
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Thursday, March 12th, 2009 AT 8:30 AM
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Good morning Mike.

With #1 and #3 not jumped what voltage do you get @ each ..and #4 ??

when jumped there should be NO voltage @ #4 untill the H/L switch is turned on


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Thursday, March 12th, 2009 AT 8:42 AM
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As for the light coming on and off !! I think it is due to a bad connection ... remember #1 and #3 are hot all times .. not just @ key on .. with the light switch in the ON position all the time and #3 and #1 HOT all the time the lights would be on constantly even with ignition OFF because it is still making the circuit ... there would have to be a timer relay somewhere on the system for the light to time out after exiting the vehicle !!


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Thursday, March 12th, 2009 AT 8:53 AM
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With switch off#3 not jumped I get 0 volts on all poles except #1 has 12 volts. With switch on #3 not jumped I get 12 volts on #1 0 volts on #2 and 8 volts on #'s 3 and 4. When #3 is jumped I get 12 volts at each pole except #2 with the switch off. When I turn the switch on with #3 jumped it's about the same except #4 dropped to 10 volts.
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Thursday, March 12th, 2009 AT 9:13 AM
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Dave I just noticed something on your relay sketch.I've been numbering them different than you. Your #1 is my #4, #2 is my #3, #3 is my #2, #4 is my #1. I don't know how this happened.
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Thursday, March 12th, 2009 AT 9:32 AM
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I am not understanding this mike. Test 1 & 2 below are the same test with different result's? Also your how are the lights working with your last test?

(1)With#3 not jumped I get 0 volts on all poles except #1 has 12 volts.

(2)With #3 not jumped I get 12 volts on #1 0 volts on #2 and 8 volts on #'s 3 and 4.

(3)When #3 is jumped I get 12 volts at each pole except #2 with the switch off.

(4)When I turn the switch on with #3 jumped it's about the same except #4 dropped to 10 volts.
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Thursday, March 12th, 2009 AT 9:38 AM
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I don't think I explained it correctly about the lights. What I was asking was, when the H/light switch was on and you started the car then the lights wouild come on automatically and then when you turned the car off and opened the door the lights would turn off automatically.
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Thursday, March 12th, 2009 AT 9:40 AM
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I modified my previous message showing when the switch was on & off.
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Thursday, March 12th, 2009 AT 9:48 AM
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I got no lights with any test.
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Thursday, March 12th, 2009 AT 9:51 AM
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OK can we do the test'e again using my relay terminals LOL .. and see what we get .. remove the jumper and lets start from the begining .. check the voltages (no jumper) on each terminal with lights off and lights on .. let me know ...

If you leave the light switch in the ON position .. theoretically the light's would be ON all the time ..because #1 and #3 are HOT all times and #4 from switch grounds it out ..and the swith would be in the ground postion with light's switched on .. no matter if the key is ON or OFF .. why they would go out when you open the door I have no clue about unless there is a timer relay which our diagrams are not showing ???


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