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Yeah, I looked and couldn't see anything but this is what I have. Sorry about the poor quality I was trying to hold a flashlight in my left hand and snap with my right and I'm left handed. I tried pulling the cable from both ends to free it up and there was nothing. I've looked for the cable, all they have are the "universal" ones. Called a dealership and was told GM doesn't even make it any more.
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Thursday, September 23rd, 2021 AT 3:14 PM
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When you say you tried pulling the cable from both ends? Do you mean the cable feels like it's binding up or is it the gas pedal that's not returning to its normal position? Also is there a stop screw on the side of the throttle body that can adjust the plates position? It's odd because usually a cable will stretch and be too long, therefore having slack in it, in this case your throttle cable is too tight. Is there an additional cable for the Cruise Control that's pulling on the throttle plates? Because honestly I can't see anything out of those pictures. Maybe if you can take 4 or 5 pictures during the day from different angles around the throttle body.
I mean now we have to figure out why the cable is so tight. Did this original problem happen suddenly or over time?
This is a cable I found from AutoZone, does this look like your cable (Pic 1)? You'll notice there is an adjustment screw towards the bottom of the cable.
Does it make a difference with the cruise cable off?
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Thursday, September 23rd, 2021 AT 9:16 PM
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Pic 1 shows yellow throttle and black cruise cables, 2 and 3 show the position of the throttle (closed) with both cables disconnected, 4 shows position of throttle (open) with throttle cable connected, I took a few pics with cruise connected but they didn't turn out good enough to see but there is a good 1/4 inch of slack at the end. Your pic 1 is pretty close to what I have. Nothing stuck under the pedal I pulled the floor mat out and stuck a mirror behind it.
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Friday, September 24th, 2021 AT 4:46 PM
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So there's no threaded adjustment on the throttle cable anywhere, with a nut on it? Not even down at the pedal? Something is holding that cable up, if you pull on the cable does it feel like it moves freely?
Have you followed the cable all the way down to the firewall, does it meet up with any other cables at any point or can you follow it all the way to the pedal and find no places where its kinked in a strange position or something?
I mean you've found the issue. All of those throttle body pics look the same to me, There has to be an adjustment on it somewhere. Cables don't just tighten up like that for no reason. I have been looking all over for diagrams and can't find much. Im doing some investigating and see if I can get a better diagram of where that cable runs too. Hopefully ill have more info tonight.
I do see that a lot of places sell a universal cable like you said. Not sure that will work for you though.
Can you disconnect the cable from the gas pedal?
One more thing, how does the throttle plates move with the cable disconnected, can you turn the plates freely, no binding or anything? Just pull the throttle linkage like the cable would be doing. Make sure that bearing in there isn't binding up.
So it seems other Malibu's have this same issue. They think it's an adjustment issue.
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Friday, September 24th, 2021 AT 5:26 PM
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I can't see anything on the throttle nut or a screw. If it's on there they have it buried so I'll take the air box off again and move any wires or anything else that could be in the way and take another look. Yes the cable moves freely and my wife says when I move the cable inside the casing the gas pedal moves up and down about an inch and I can hear the pedal hitting the floor. I had her move it and verified it does just that. I'll take a look at the pedal for a nut or something there, I wasn't looking for one before but I don't recall seeing anything that looked odd to me. Yes I followed the cable to the firewall and it's normal at the air breather tube there is a clip it lies on to keep it in place. It goes into a rubber sheathing and runs back beside the brake booster and I looked at that point and I can see where it goes thru the firewall. I followed the cruise to the box of the passenger side and it's secured in place. Figure 2 looks more like what I have so again, I'll get back under there for another look. The throttle opens and closes freely with the cable disconnected. I don't feel any catching or sticking, the tension on that spring I think feels ok but I've found myself looking at it off and on like maybe subconsciously something there is catching my eye, for some reason I just keep looking at it if that makes any sense. No I didn't disconnect at the pedal but since you asked if I did I suppose I should.
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Saturday, September 25th, 2021 AT 8:44 AM
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Okai, so after some more investigation from another source, this car supposedly does not have any adjustments for the cable. It's only the throttle cable and the cruise control cable. But we must be missing something here.
If you have the cable hooked up, without the cruise cable, it's still hanging the throttle plates open correct?
If so, is it possible to pull up on the gas pedal to allow for the little slack it needs? I mean we're talking about probably a 1/4" inch. Or is it possible that the spring on the throttle body is connected incorrectly? You said you cleaned the throttle bore, so it can't be carbon hanging the cable up.
The only thing I can think of at this point is the cable is maybe binding up inside its case,
I would say order a cable and replace it at this point just to see if that helps.
I'm running out of ideas here. Is the TPS holding it open? Have you had that off with the cable on and see if the plates are still open? Try that. We're missing something really simple here. Cables don't shrink,
Also try unhooking the cable from the gas pedal, and keeping it just hooked up to the throttle. See what that looks like.
I have never seen a TPS bind up and hang a cable up, but I suppose its possible. I'm not sure.
You're going to figure it one of these days and be kicking yourself, it has happened to me. But please let me know if you do find out what's going on. I really have to know at this point why those throttle plates are hanging open.

Is this bracket bent at all? You might want to take the whole throttle body right off the car and inspect every part.

Also, the springs that are supposed to pull the throttle closed are supposed to be wound around twice, I think there are 2 of them, if they're weak or not in the correct position, they might not be able to fully pull the throttle closed. With the cable connected can you pull the throttle closed by hand?

That bottom pic is yours, I don't think I see the spring hooked on there.

I just also read about the vacuum behind the throttle plates pulling them slightly open due to worn return springs, does this only happen when its running?
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Saturday, September 25th, 2021 AT 3:11 PM
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Well, I feel like an idiot. I looked under the hood and was over top of it in all kinds of positions then I got under the dash and started tugging on the other end the started working on the pedal pretty vigorously even pulling it up a little still nothing. Next I started feeling around and still didn't feel anything (I don't have a lot of sensation in my fingers), got a small screwdriver and stuck it under the pedal, nothing. Got a smaller "precision" screwdriver and nothing so then I got the idea of trying to slip a magnet behind it. I fished out a freaking nut. I think it fell behind the pedal about a month ago when I changed my brake booster and I must not have realized I didn't pick them all up, only thing I can think of. I hooked up the throttle cable and cruise and fired her up and idles perfect. I feel like I might have wasted your time and I apologize for that but you have taught me much and I thank you.
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Saturday, September 25th, 2021 AT 4:14 PM
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Awesome man, no you didn't waste my time, I knew we would find something crazy eventually. It almost always ends up being something simple like that. But think about what a forgotten nut lead to. I code for a TPS low input. But ha, you learned the basics of testing ECM circuits now. Plus, we're here to help to people. I'm glad you were able to find the issue without giving up and bringing it to a dealership. It has been a fun 2 weeks, lol. Anyway, good work. Have a nicer week. =)
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Sunday, September 26th, 2021 AT 8:52 AM
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Thank you Al you were great and had the patience of a saint.
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