Cranks no start

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I got a new ECU which is synched based on VIN. But of course the key fob has to be programmed. I tried to login with my Autel but I cannot get to the step where it says program fob cause it keeps saying not able to communicate with ECU, and with the ignition on and key in slot, slot is not lit up like it used to when I was trying to start it and it would turn over, now it wont turn over at all and the alarm light is on the dash with the ignition on. Any suggestions? Would the not programmed fob even prevent it from turning over? Am trying to find out if it's a fob issue or something else. Same thing happened with the used ECU I purchased it wont turn over and my stupidity I deleted the registry on the key in trying to make it synch with the used ECU.
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Thursday, February 18th, 2021 AT 11:12 AM
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Also, isn't the fact that the fob slot isn't lighting up an indication that it isn't programmed to the car? If so, how am I able to turn the ignition on and all lights come on the dash, I tried to activate things manually with the scanner like the horn and it did respond so I don't understand.
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Thursday, February 18th, 2021 AT 11:14 AM
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Very strange, called a locksmith who programs these fobs and he could not communicate with the refurbished ECU. So, I told him let me put the old one back and see if it will work, so he was able to communicate with the old one and got the key slot to light up, and am back to where I started at least with it turning over.
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Thursday, February 18th, 2021 AT 2:58 PM
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Sorry for the delay. But it appears you made progress. Sounds like you need them to swap out that ECU. If the old one communicates and this one does not directly points to the ECU. More than likely this was a rebuilt ECU and they didn't fix the communication circuit or put the wrong resistor in the circuit so the scan tool is not able to talk to it.
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Thursday, February 18th, 2021 AT 4:14 PM
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Am sending it back for a refund, don't know what to do right now, get a used one for $40.00 and try to have it programmed to the key again or what. I wish there was a way to test whether a coil signal could get the car to run.
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Friday, February 19th, 2021 AT 8:13 AM
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Can you tell me where the crank shaft sensor is and how to remove it please?
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Friday, February 19th, 2021 AT 1:30 PM
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I know you guys are busy, so I kept looking and found it, it's a PITA but replaced it. Put a new battery, and tried, I got about 1/2 second of it starting so that's something different but then the battery started to get weaker. But it now sounds like it wants to start. I wish it would give me codes, only thing that is always there but not under current codes or pending but permanent are: p2133, p2119, which were there from before but I doubt these would stop the car from starting.
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Friday, February 19th, 2021 AT 3:35 PM
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Also, the old crank shaft sensor was bone dry. Isn't it supposed to have oil on it like camshaft sensors?
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Friday, February 19th, 2021 AT 3:52 PM
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No. The crank sensor needs to be dry. It is only reading the rise and fall of the crank tone wheel so there is no oil.

Looks like you have a throttle body issue. I attached the info for these two codes. However, I would pick one as I suspect you fix one it fixes the other.
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Saturday, February 20th, 2021 AT 5:26 PM
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Thanks for that. I will have it checked out. If I do, could that prevent it from starting? Also, when I spray starting fluid in one of them, sometimes the car would almost want to start, but the fuel pressure is good, and there was fuel coming out from where I measured the pressure, so is it possible that fuel is getting there bit injectors aren't firing?
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Saturday, February 20th, 2021 AT 5:42 PM
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Only thing they giving me is to check volts between pin 6 and ground and it has 5 volts, and there is continuity between ECM and throttle harness.
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Saturday, February 20th, 2021 AT 7:53 PM
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You mean pin 6 of the TP sensor? If so, you are testing for the wrong code. You had the P2133 which means we need to check pin 1 and ground.

Basically it is the same wire just on bank 2 actuator.

Take a look at the highlighted section below and wiring diagram.
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Sunday, February 21st, 2021 AT 7:14 PM
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Thanks.
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Sunday, February 21st, 2021 AT 7:25 PM
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It does have 5 volts.
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Tuesday, February 23rd, 2021 AT 11:03 AM
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Sprayed starter fluid the other throttle and started for a second and shut off, that means there is spark but no fuel right? How do I know that injectors are firing even though there is fuel reaching the fuel pressure lines?
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Tuesday, February 23rd, 2021 AT 11:06 AM
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That is correct. If just adding a fuel source and it starts then the plugs and all other components are operating. It is simply not getting fuel to the combustion chambers.

Here is a guide on how to test the injectors. You need to use a test light or noid light to see if they are firing.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-a-fuel-injector

If they are firing and there is pressure then they should be delivering fuel.
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Wednesday, February 24th, 2021 AT 7:11 PM
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Have not gotten to check injectors yet as they are under the intake, got a spark plug tester and its weird it shows that it sparks only once when you try to start and then motor keeps turning. Same result on the spark plug itself against a ground or on the light tester used to check spark.
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Friday, February 26th, 2021 AT 12:32 PM
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That is strange. Does it still start and run when you add the starter fluid? If you continue to add the starter fluid does it continue to run?

The single spark and then no more points to a theft issue. This would also make sense why the injectors are not firing. Is the theft light staying on?
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Saturday, February 27th, 2021 AT 2:21 PM
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Am going to take a video of the cluster while starting. No, it's not on. Injectors are hard to reach I have to remove the intake to test them.
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Saturday, February 27th, 2021 AT 2:27 PM
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Okay. A video will help. I think it is safe to assume that if it continues to run on starter fluid that the injectors are not firing but the plugs do continue to fire or it would not continue running.
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Saturday, February 27th, 2021 AT 2:30 PM

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