Engine not starting why?

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RASMATAZ
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Do you hear the fuel pump when you turn key to run? If not check the fuel pump connector if its loose.
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Thursday, December 31st, 2020 AT 9:49 AM (Merged)
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RICKYJENNIE
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There is no pump comming on but I was told something about a WIN sensor(wireless ignition node) the ignition has power but the ignition wont even turn the starter hope I am saying it right its something in the dash I was told for the ignition thanks.
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Thursday, December 31st, 2020 AT 9:49 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Test the autoshutdown ( ASD relay )
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Thursday, December 31st, 2020 AT 9:49 AM (Merged)
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Hey, I have the car listed above. I recently did a valve cover replacement because of leaking oil causing a misfire a cylinder. What should my next step be in correcting the timing issue? My car have 209,000 miles on it. I have replaced the valve cover gasket. It ran for for about 20 minutes and shut off. Now the timing is off. I put a scan tool on the car p2088, p2090, p2017 and p2004. I purchased both camshaft sensors, intake manifold runner control and a IAT sensor. Haven’t installed yet. I’m just unsure of the timing issue.
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Thursday, December 31st, 2020 AT 9:49 AM (Merged)
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Hi,

The timing is controlled by the power-train control module and several sensors. Why do you feel the timing was off? Was there work on the timing chain? Also, can you explain what is happening? Does it try to start? Is it possible for you to record the engine cranking so I can hear it. Often times I can tell if there is a timing issue.

Let me know.
Joe
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Thursday, December 31st, 2020 AT 9:49 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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I had a mechanics come out and take a look at the car for me. He ran a few tests and he is the one who told me that timing was off. I originally had a misfire in the 3rd cylinder where it was oil in the spark plug chute. So I replaced the valve cover gasket. After completing the job The car ran for about 20 minutes then shit off. When I turn the key it won’t turn over. There is noise where it sounds like it wants to crank but it won’t. Immediately after removing the key after trying to crank it there is a rattle noise coming from the left side of the engine. That lasts for maybe 5 seconds. I just brought the car a few months ago so I don’t if there was work done on the chain before.
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Thursday, December 31st, 2020 AT 9:49 AM (Merged)
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If the starter is engaging and turning the engine, I would recommend checking compression. If the timing is off, the compression will be low. Here is a link that shows how that is done. If we can determine it is off, I can help you through the process of replacing the timing chain. Here is a link that shows in general how it is done:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-engine-compression

Here are the directions specific to your vehicle:

2007 Dodge Caliber L4-2.0L VIN B
Cylinder Compression Pressure Test
Vehicle Powertrain Management Tune-up and Engine Performance Checks Compression Check Testing and Inspection Component Tests and General Diagnostics Cylinder Compression Pressure Test
CYLINDER COMPRESSION PRESSURE TEST
CYLINDER COMPRESSION PRESSURE TEST

The results of a cylinder compression pressure test can be utilized to diagnose several engine malfunctions.

Ensure the battery is completely charged and the engine starter motor is in good operating condition. Otherwise the indicated compression pressures may not be valid for diagnosis purposes.

1. Check engine oil level and add oil if necessary.
2. Drive the vehicle until engine reaches normal operating temperature. Select a route free from traffic and other forms of congestion, observe all traffic laws, and accelerate through the gears several times briskly.
3. Remove engine cover.
4. Disconnect coil electrical connectors and remove coils.
5. Remove all spark plugs from engine. As spark plugs are being removed, check electrodes for abnormal firing indicators fouled, hot, oily, etc. Record cylinder number of spark plug for future reference.
6. Disconnect injector electrical connectors.
7. Be sure throttle blade is fully open during the compression check.
8. Insert compression gauge adaptor 8116 or the equivalent, into the #1 spark plug hole in cylinder head. Connect the 0-500 psi (Blue) pressure transducer CH7059 with cable adaptors to the DRBIII(R). For Special Tool identification, (Refer to ENGINE - SPECIAL TOOLS).
9. Crank engine until maximum pressure is reached on gauge. Record this pressure as #1 cylinder pressure.
10. Repeat the previous step for all remaining cylinders.
11. Compression should not be less than 1034 kPa (150 psi) and not vary more than 25 percent from cylinder to cylinder.
12. If one or more cylinders have abnormally low compression pressures, repeat the compression test.
13. If the same cylinder or cylinders repeat an abnormally low reading on the second compression test, it could indicate the existence of a problem in the cylinder in question. The recommended compression pressures are to be used only as a guide to diagnosing engine problems. An engine should not be disassembled to determine the cause of low compression unless some malfunction is present.

As far as adjusting timing, you really can't do it. With older model vehicles, it could be done by turning the ignition distributor, but that is no longer an option.

Now, I would love to hear the noises you hear. Also, if the starter is engaging and turning the engine, please record it and upload it for me.

Let me know.

Joe
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Thursday, December 31st, 2020 AT 9:49 AM (Merged)
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STARRDUST55
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My car will not start. Turning over getting power from battery fuses are good. Still will not start.
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Thursday, December 31st, 2020 AT 9:49 AM (Merged)
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KEN L
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Hello,

We need to see if you have spark at the plugs here is a guide to help you.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-an-ignition-system

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

Please run this test and get back to us so we can continue helping you.

Cheers, Ken
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Thursday, December 31st, 2020 AT 9:49 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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What happen is the car just stalled out while I was driving. I had it towed home. I pulled the codes all random cylinder miss and cam sensor bank 1 when I pulled out the sensor the sensor had melted with a hole. I replace the both sensors and including the both exhaust and intake solenoids because they had grime oil build up and I replaced the oil temperature sensor. I got everything installed cleared the codes it cranks like it wants to start, but no start and the engine light flashes while cranking the engine so I am thinking the computer needs to be reprogrammed.
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Thursday, December 31st, 2020 AT 9:50 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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No, clear all codes and re-scan it, then try resetting security system if no manual look online for your car on how to do it. As the damage you have already seen it may not restart anyhow so I would really suggest having a professional take a look at this and he/she can use his scanner to scan for codes. Professional scanners have the capacity to pick up codes the DYI home scanners cannot.
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Thursday, December 31st, 2020 AT 9:50 AM (Merged)
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ANDRE S. BARNETT
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Has anyone had this problem and traced it back to the infamous corroded relay problem?
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Sunday, February 14th, 2021 AT 5:34 PM
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KEN L
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Not that we know of. Did you fix this problem with a relay and if so which one?
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Monday, February 15th, 2021 AT 11:40 AM

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