Engine stalls while driving?

Tiny
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Already replaced it with a new one and backtracked and retried the old one. The old one wont run at all.
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Sunday, May 24th, 2020 AT 4:59 PM
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With the wires detached the engine should run at 500 rpm.

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Sunday, May 24th, 2020 AT 5:17 PM
Tiny
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Would be nice if it was built with a tachometer.
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Sunday, May 24th, 2020 AT 5:43 PM
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Got it.

It should idle with the IAC disconnected. It will be a low idle but still idle on its own.

Then when you plug the IAC back in, the idle should come up.

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Monday, May 25th, 2020 AT 5:46 AM
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Unplugged the IAC and it shuts off.
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Monday, May 25th, 2020 AT 6:21 AM
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Okay, clean the throttle body real well.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/throttle-actuator-service

Then adjust the base idle so it will idle on its own. There should be a base adjustment screw on the throttle body.

Roy

1. Disconnect idle speed control-air bypass solenoid.
2. With transmission in Neutral or Park, run engine at 2500 rpm/30 seconds.
3. Place automatic transmission in Park, manual transmission in Neutral.
4. Check/adjust idle rpm:
Turn the throttle plate stop screw to 725 rpm
5. Shut engine off and repeat Steps 2, 3 and 4.
6. Shut engine off and disconnect battery for a minimum of 5 minutes.
7. Engine off reconnect idle speed control-air bypass solenoid, verify the throttle is not stuck in the bore and linkage not preventing throttle from closing.
8. Start engine and stabilize for 2 minutes then goose engine and let it return to idle, lightly depress and release the accelerator. Let engine idle, if problem exists, refer to computer engine controls/diagnostic routines for other possible causes.

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Monday, May 25th, 2020 AT 6:29 AM
Tiny
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Tried this on both the old one and the new one. And both times it shuts off.
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Monday, May 25th, 2020 AT 6:29 AM
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You need to adjust the base idle as I posted.

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Monday, May 25th, 2020 AT 6:30 AM
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Need something stronger than throttle cleaner. The stuff inside is cooked on. Red can is what I've been using.
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Monday, May 25th, 2020 AT 6:52 AM
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That stuff does not do squat.

Go to the parts store and get a can of 2+2 carburetor cleaner and a small brush.

That stuff works great.

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Monday, May 25th, 2020 AT 6:54 AM
Tiny
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Was originally thinking, remove sensor and soak in gas and use toothbrush.
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Monday, May 25th, 2020 AT 7:07 AM
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Carburetor cleaner would better but give it a try. Carburetor cleaner is more aggressive and melts away all that carbon.

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Monday, May 25th, 2020 AT 7:11 AM
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Tried what you wanted me to. Idles too erratic; goes from 1,600 down to 700 and back up and down. Wont even out.
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Monday, May 25th, 2020 AT 12:27 PM
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Check for any vacuum leaks. Check the PCV valve. Block it off with your finger and see if it idles steady.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-idles-too-high

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Monday, May 25th, 2020 AT 12:50 PM
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Don't see a PCV valve on a v6 4.0. Have a vacuum line going to air boot, but no valve on it.
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Monday, May 25th, 2020 AT 1:56 PM
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Yes, it has one.

I posted the test for it below.

Roy

Start engine and bring to normal operating temperature.

Disconnect hose from remote air cleaner or air outlet tube (tube connecting mass air meter and throttle body).

Place a stiff piece of paper over the hose end. Wait one minute.

Does vacuum hold the paper in place?

Yes -- System is okay. Reconnect hose. Go to diagnostic routines for other possible causes of vehicle symptoms. See Power-train Management/Testing and Inspection/Diagnostic Routines.

No -- System is plugged or evaporative emission valve is leaking (if equipped). Go to PCV3. See: Positive Crankcase Ventilation > Pinpoint Tests > PCV 3 - Evaporative Emission System Check.
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Monday, May 25th, 2020 AT 2:03 PM
Tiny
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Tried this.
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Monday, May 25th, 2020 AT 5:16 PM
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Good. Did you replace the hose that was leaking vacuum?

Replace the PCV valve.

I could not see anything on the scan tool. The camera cut off anything that showed.

Roy
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Tuesday, May 26th, 2020 AT 4:30 AM
Tiny
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Ordered a PCV valve. Pick it up after work, but even with it off and vacuum plugged, the idle is erratic, moving up and down from 700's to nearly 1,000.
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Tuesday, May 26th, 2020 AT 5:35 AM
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Can you do another video and this time let me see the readings on the scan tool?

I need to see long term trim readings.

Roy
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Tuesday, May 26th, 2020 AT 5:38 AM

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