window not working

For the window, the next time it acts up, hold the switch in whichever direction you want to roll it and slam the door at the same time. If this causes the window to start working, then you just need a new power window motor. The brushes inside of the motor that you have are old and not always making a strong enough contact to run the motor. The jarring force of slamming the door combined with the electrical energy being applied can get it going. I have been occasionally doing it to my window for a while now.

As for the ABS system, there are a lot of things that can get the light turned on. I would suggest taking it to someone with a good scanner and get that code read, and go from there. In my area, the local Advance Auto Parts has a scanner that will pull ABS system codes.

Thanks for the advice. I have auto zone near me they do not do ABS scan. I think i dealing with some want a be mechanics. I replaced my own window since. if it was easy. I can replace the motor too. Cannot be that hard on this truck. I will have to find an advanced auto see if they can test my truck. I was told there is no test for it. But my dad was mechanic i know better. Just put nice little chunk of change into truck want to fix this on down low. lol

My ABS light came on after i pulled a pop up camper. I even put new brakes on it but i did get used ABS motor. Could not afford new one.

If you did the window already then doing the motor itself should be a cinch for you, as you have basically done the job once. I hate to say it but you might have to take it to a dealer to get the ABS system scanned. Paying a little to get the code(s) is still better than guessing and hoping. Let us know.

I will. Ugh do not like going to dealer. I am female and they think i not car smart. Been there done that lol. Think my daddy haunting my truck lol he would. Thanks again.

Please let us know what happens, we are interested to see what it is.

Cheers, Ken

Yeah I hate going to the dealer too. Honestly I hate taking my car to anyone else. But sometimes I know I have swallow that pill to get the expensive scanner hooked up.

Well i just went ahead and replaced the motor and regulator my window. It was more difficult then i thought it would be but got it done and works great. Still have to deal with abs light. Also had to replace my alternator. That was easy compared to window lol got alot of attention from neighbors too lol to see a gal fixin her own truck.

Nice work, we are here to help, please use 2CarPros anytime.

Cheers, Ken

I got this truck about a month ago, tuned her up fluid swaps, everything. I bought it with the pass. Window not working, but the drivers did. Three days after my purchase the driver window stopped working and the dome light doesn't come on either, I've installed new motors (after he king the fuses and relays, all checked good) and have installed new switches, they still refuse to work. What else could it be??

Start with the most common suspect. Check for broken or frayed wires between the driver's door hinges.

windows work itermittantly when high humidity or raining. Wipers work the same way and the interior light doesn't work also. Sometime wipers work when others won't. Yesterday wipers worked when windows and interior light wouldn't. tThis morning every thing worked fine. I have had this problem since I have had the truck, onwer before me also, Thanking you in advance,
Larry Branch

this may be the gem module for both wiper uses another module as well. a pro will have to scan for codes for that. also check ground on LH kick panel, rear of LH fender, and top center of right fender apron.

My power windows stopped working all of a sudden along with the interior lights and the electronic 4x4. I`ve checked all of the fuses, and they look good. Does anybody have any ideas?

Thank You
Larry

Hi Larry. Welcome to the forum. Did you check fuses under the hood and inside? Since multiple circuits are affected, I would expect to find a main fuse under the hood is popped. Sometimes it's hard to see a blown fuse. A better way to check them is with a test light or inexpensive digital voltmeter. There are two tiny contacts in the plastic where you can poke the test probe of the test light or voltmeter. The ignition switch must be on when testing the fuses because that's when these circuits are powered up. Look for a fuse that only has voltage on one of the two terminals. I apologize if I'm telling you stuff you already know.

caradiodoc

Yes I have checked the fuses under the hood with a test light also, and they all have power. Any other ideas?

Thanks
Larry

Thinking about this logically, there has to be at least two different circuits involved. The windows and 4x4 system should only have power when the ignition switch is on. The interior lights will have power all the time. If you are fairly certain all of the circuits were affected at the same time, there has to be something ahead of the ignition switch that they have in common. That would be an internal connection in the fuse box or a break in the wire feeding those fuses.

Can you find the related fuses and see if there is voltage on them? I'm sending a help request to my cousin. He has a '97 Ranger and I think he has the service manuals. Being a former tv repairman, like me, he will have no problem following the wiring diagrams.

I want to apologize in advance if I take a long time to reply. My Verizon personal e-mail provider is going through some major changes, (not for the better), and they're going out of service about 20 hours per day. When you post a response, I get an automated e-mail message directing me to it. I have to watch 24 hours per day to quickly find those messages during the few hours the system is working.

caradiodoc

Now I wonder if all these circuits share a common ground. I wish I had a wiring diagragm. I`m beginning to wonder if it has comething to do with the GEM module. I`ll do some more checking tomorrow.

Thanks for the input

Larry

The GEM module is a possibility. I got a reply from my cousin. Rather than retype eveything, here's a copy / paste version of his reply:


Using manual for '97. PW---does it have p seat, p lock? If so, do they work? If so, fuse 20A #10 (under hood) ok. Power goes to relay. Relay is activated by ignition switch. From there the power goes to the switches, one touch down relay module and GEM. Interior lights--? Are we talking dash, dome, glove box, heater control, etc? #8--20A fuse--engine compartment feeds battery saver relay--that goes to #27 a 10A mini I/P fuse panel which goes to all of the interior lights. The GEM controls the battery saver relay. 4 X 4 system seems more involved--is it in 2wd or 4wd--does the transmission shift properly, including O/D? Items included in the system are--GEM. battery saver relay, I/P fuse panel, fuse box under hood, 4wd mode switch, electric shift control module, electric shift relay, etc. The common elements to all 3 (if this is 1 problem) would seem to be 12V, ground--, GEM, battery saver module and relay, other? If this is one problem, I would start troubleshooting the lights, that would seem to be the easiest. Other than the modules, visual troubleshooting--looking for a corroded ground, wire that looks pinched, rubbed, etc. Make sure you check all of the lights--flashers, cargo, etc for more hints. Was this intermittent, or start with no warning.

The power window on the passenger side will not work. I have checked the switch on the drivers side & also on the passenger side with a test light & they are working. I guess that leaves only one thing it can be & that is the motor in the passenger side door. I have the panel off the door & now I am stuck. Can someone tell me how to get to the window motor to replace it?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
jackg304.

Thanks for the suggestions. The problem ended up being in the GEM module.

Thanks
Larry

unplug the motor and check if have power and ground if not check wiring harness in door jam


WINDOW REGULATOR & MOTOR
Removal
Disconnect negative battery cable. Remove door trim panel. Ensure wiring is not in line with holes to be drilled in door inner panel. Disconnect wiring connector.
Using a 1/2" (12.7 mm) drill bit, drill 2 holes in door trim shield at drill dimples located opposite 2 unexposed motor drive retainer screws. Remove 3 motor mounted retainer screws, using 2 drill holes and existing larger hole access to screw heads.
Push window regulator and motor toward outside sheet metal to disengage from gear. After window regulator and motor are disengaged, prop glass in full up position. Remove window regulator and motor from inside door.
Installation
To install, reverse removal procedure. Tighten retaining screws to 50-85 INCH lbs. (5.6-9.6 N.m). Install 2 pieces of Pressure Sensitive Waterproof Tape (D6AZ-19627-A) or equivalent over drilled holes. Connect wiring and negative battery cable.
Remove glass prop, and check glass operation. Ensure drain holes are open. Install door trim panel.

Hi oxl832, we're glad your were able to resolve your problem with your truck. We thank you for using 2carpros.com and look forward to helping you in the future.

Thank You for the fast response. I will let you know the outcome.
jackg304

My driver side power window is giving me fits. It seems to have its own mind. It works great when it wants to. I have checked power and it is getting power to window motor. When I remove door panel and spray WD40 on wires where they attach to the motor the window begins to work. After a period of time though it will again start to work when it pleases. I think motor pobably has a bad connection. Can this be fixed or is it better off replacing the motor. Also just how difficult is this as I am considering a mechcanic for the repair.

The power window motor may be the cause but have the circuit checked. There are solenoid curcuits on each window in case one of the windows don't work the others will. It does take someone with some mechanical ability to get the motor out and check it. in the motor just a little dirt between the brushes can cause the motor to work speratically.

[quote:b117c9bb69="Jackg304"]Thank You for the fast response. I will let you know the outcome.
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Is there anyplace I can see a manual of this door? It looks like someone has been in here before.

Hi, the power windows do not operate. I checked for voltage at the driver door master switch in reference to chassis ground, there was no Volts present. I have voltage to my door locks and side view mirrors. The 20A fuse is good in Engine Comp Fuse/relay box. I don't know where to start looking for the GEM, how to change it.
My wiper also, but I'm not sure if it's related. I found voltage up to the motor.
Thanks, Jamie 337-515-5428

Hi Jamie,

Thank you for the donation.

The GEM, located behind center of dash, is for controlling the ground circuits so in this case is too early to worry about it.

If voltage is not available at the master switch, it could be due to a faulty accessory delay relay located under right side of dash.

Light Blue/Black wire receives power from the accessory delay relay.

Appply voltge to the Light Blue/Black wire and test if the window works.