1996 Dodge Caravan wont start

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Sorry it took so long to get back. I was out of town for a few days.

As far as your question, an aftermarket should work fine; however, I have gotten bad ones. As far as the map sensor, that could be the problem. Have you checked it? Also, make sure the crank sensor didn't move on you again.

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Wednesday, June 16th, 2010 AT 9:32 PM
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So, how exactly do you check the map sensor? Why would the crank sensor go out of wack again, is there some kind of vibration that would cause it, and is it normal to work right when cooled off?
Btw, I just found out when my son-in-law put the crank sensor in, he didnt use that little spacer paper, is there anything else I can use in place of it?
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Thursday, June 17th, 2010 AT 9:18 AM
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That could be the entire problem. It needs to have a specific gap. Do you think the parts store would allow you to remove one from a new sensor and then returne it?
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Friday, June 18th, 2010 AT 3:31 PM
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Ok, so I had the sensor corrected, and drove 65 miles and it started putting on me again, the code read 51, what does this mean?
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Monday, June 21st, 2010 AT 1:40 PM
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51 = Oxygen sensor output indicates lean too long. This could be something as simple as a vacuum leak, bad sensor, bad wiring to the sensor, or low fuel rail pressure from a weak or bad fuel pump.

This is what it takes for the code to be set. Sensor output indicates lean for more than 715 seconds (11 minutes, 55 seconds)

Results If Component Fails
A fault code 51 is stored, the circuit stays in closed-loop, and the logic module will still monitor the oxygen sensor signal. If the condition persists for four times what it took to set the code, the logic module will allow the engine to run rich, but prevent it from running lean. I would recommend checking fuel pump pressure under when it happens and if it is good, then check the sensor and wiring to the sensor. A rich mixture will cause it to run the way you described.
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Monday, June 21st, 2010 AT 10:51 PM
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I found that there was a cover off a small vaccuum, that goes from something into the intake manifold, I actually knew this was missing after I fixed the crank sensor. I went to the part store and got a cover, replaced it, and now Ive had the van running for about 25 minutes. If I just let it sit and idle for hours, will the same thing occur if that wa s the problem or does it actually need to be driven? Its been 100 degrees out and I dont want to get stuck out in bfe again.
Whta sensor are you talking about, the o2 sensor, and if so, where is it located?

Another thing, when I started it up, there was a slightly unusual humming coming from the back of the van, I think it was coming from the back, what could that be?

Its been running in the driveway for 2 hours and nothing happened. I finally shut it off. Hopefully this was the problem, what do you think?
I appreciate you so much!
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Tuesday, June 22nd, 2010 AT 8:29 AM
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First, I'm really glad to help, so you are welcome. I enjoy trying to help good people, and you seem like one.

As far as the problem, it sounds like you may have fixed it. My only concern is the noise you heard from the rear of the vehicle. That could have been the fuel pump. Is there any way to drive it a long distance in a safe area incase it dies on you?

By the way, we must be near the same age. I haven't heard BFE for a long time. (Lol)

Let me know.
Joe
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Tuesday, June 22nd, 2010 AT 7:16 PM
Tiny
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Im gonna drive it today, as far as the humming in the rear end, it may have just been the fuel pumps normal sound, but I might have looked more into it because ive been trying so hard to get it running.
As far as bfe, Im originally from Bradford, my brother used to live in West Mifflin. But I usually dont tell my age but, Im 45
LOL
Ill get back to you this afternoon after I drive it. Wish me luck
lookoing froward to your reply
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Wednesday, June 23rd, 2010 AT 6:33 AM
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Ok, its me again.
I drove it today 65 miles b4 it started spitting. I stopped for about 15 min and started going again. No codes were set.
Now what?
Where is that o2 sensor located?
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Wednesday, June 23rd, 2010 AT 1:56 PM
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I knew it! I'm about 35 miles east of Pittsburgh and the same age. (LOL) Where on god's earth are you now?

As far as the O2 sensor, it is on the exhaust system between the engine and the converter. Before checking that, there are other things that could cause a lean mixture, vacuum leak, weak fuel pump... Since you heard the noise from the rear, I'm questioning the fuel pump. Here is a "how to" for checking pump pressure. Check it and let me know what you find. The how to will provide directions and it also contains a video to show you how to do it.

https://www.2carpros.com/how_to/how_to_check_fuel_pressure.htm

Joe
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Wednesday, June 23rd, 2010 AT 11:52 PM
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Good morning, Im now located in North Alabama. Small town just north of Huntsville, in Hazel Green, aka- bfe (lol)

Got to checking the van last night, I think the noise I heard was coming from the exhaust, now that I think of it, it was sounding funny b4 it broke down a month ago, I checked last night and theres not much air coming from the tailpipe, but what does come out is putting out of there. How possible is it that my converter is plugged? Btw, I remembered, while driving, about 10 miles b4 it starts acting up, it has a smell of rotten eggs, maybe sulfer for a few minutes and its when Im going up a slight hill, then it goes away and like I said, a few miles later is when it starts chocking itself out. When I got off the road, I sat for 10-15 minutes, but while I was sitting, I kept trying to give it gas and it was chocking itself if that makes sense. In a few minutes, it worked fine and I drove home

Thnaks again for everything2!
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Thursday, June 24th, 2010 AT 6:36 AM
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I went to the part store and got some seafoam. Put it in it blew smoke all over the engine, not much out the exhaust, so I determined the converter is plugged, Whats your thoughts?
Marion
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Thursday, June 24th, 2010 AT 2:32 PM
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That is very possible. When the engine is hot and has been run for some time, check to see if the converter is glowing red hot. If it is, replace it. You could also disconnect it to see if it improves the performance.

Let me know what you find.
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Friday, June 25th, 2010 AT 12:48 AM

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