Clutch pedal on floor

Tiny
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  • 1995 FORD F-150
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I got in my truck this morning and depressed the clutch pedal. It would not come off the floor. I replaced the clutch slave cylinder myself a while ago the clutch pedal is not behaving like there’s no fluid in the reservoir. The pedal held fast to the floor and was not spongy at all. I did not notice it until I was in the street my driveway is a hill and I back down in neutral. I tried shifting and was finally able to get it into second gear. It took a few seconds for the truck to start moving. The pedal was still stuck to the floor I could not lift it with the top of my foot or my hand. I managed to get it back in the driveway. The pedal eventually came back up after turning off the vehicle. Now I cannot get the clutch pedal to go down at all. The bushing to the slave cylinder from the clutch pedal assembly is still connected and I can see some movement on the slave cylinder. Any ideas?
Wednesday, April 22nd, 2020 AT 8:14 AM

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Tiny
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Hi,

Was the fluid low? I ask because there was a technical service bulletin (TSB) related to a pedal being hard to push. It was being caused by premature wear of the slave cylinder resulting from an internal leak. Also, has the clutch master cylinder ever been replaced and have you confirmed that the push rod between the brake pedal and clutch MC is restricted in any way? When you replaced the slave cylinder, was it external or internal?

Let me know.

Joe
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Wednesday, March 24th, 2021 AT 11:22 AM
Tiny
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Thanks Joe for responding. Fluid is not low. I actually replaced the clutch master cylinder a year ago, I said slave but meant Master Cylinder. So I did not replace the slave. The push rod seams unencumbered but I can tell if the pedal assembly is functioning properly. There does seem to be some minor fluid around the transmission.
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Tiny
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When you look at the transmission, do you see the slave cylinder? I ask because there are two different possibilities. One is an external and one internal.

If I had to guess, it is going to be the internal one and something has come apart on the concentric slave causing the issue. I hope, for your sake, it's external. Otherwise, the trans needs to come out.

Let me know.
Joe
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Wednesday, March 24th, 2021 AT 11:22 AM
Tiny
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Here is a photo of the hydraulic line going into the transmission housing. I guess it’s internal. Any idea on how much roughly this might cost for a mechanic to repair? Thank you so much for your time and efforts it is greatly appreciated.
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Wednesday, March 24th, 2021 AT 11:22 AM
Tiny
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Here it is:
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Wednesday, March 24th, 2021 AT 11:22 AM
Tiny
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With boot off:
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Wednesday, March 24th, 2021 AT 11:22 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

It's internal. If you have a helper press hard on the clutch, do you see any movement at the slave? I see a lot of rust on things in the pic. I'm wondering if it is frozen.

As far as repairs, if the slave needs replaced, it shouldn't be too bad. I have attached a pic. It indicates dealer price on parts and labor hours to perform the repair. You would have to multiply the hours by the hourly labor rate.

If you want to try something, do this. Basically you are going to bleed the system at the slave. If the slave is the problem, the pedal should move easily when the bleeder is opened at the slave. The bleeder for the slave cylinder body is next to the inlet line.

Here are directions for bleeding the slave:
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Clutch Hydraulic System Bleeding, Concentric Cylinder Clutch Slave

1. If bleeding a dry replacement clutch master cylinder, refer to Bench Bleed Procedure, Clutch Master Cylinder. See: Clutch Master Cylinder > Procedures
2. Disconnect the coupling at the transmission with Coupling Disconnect Tool T88T-70522-A or equivalent by sliding the white plastic sleeve toward the clutch slave cylinder while applying a slight tug on the clutch tube.

CAUTION: Make sure hydraulic tube connection is free of contamination prior to disconnecting it.

3. Remove cap and diaphragm and fill reservoir to the step with High Performance DOT 3 Brake Fluid C6AZ-19542-AA or equivalent DOT 3 fluid meeting Ford specification ESA-M6C25-A.

CAUTION:
- Clean dirt and grease from around the reservoir cap.
- Brake fluid must be certified to DOT 3 specification.

4. Apply 10-15 pounds of pressure to clutch pedal.
5. Using a small screwdriver, press the internal mechanism of the male coupling to open the valve. While continuing to hold the valve open, slowly depress the clutch pedal to the floor and hold.
6. Remove the screwdriver from the coupling, closing the valve.
7. Release the clutch pedal.
8. Refill reservoir to level at step.

CAUTION: The reservoir must be kept full at all times to make sure there will be no additional introduction of air into the system.

9. Repeat Steps 4 through 7.
10. Close reservoir. Reconnect the coupling to the clutch slave cylinder. Check that the connection is secure by applying a slight tug to the clutch tube.
11. Stroke the clutch pedal as rapidly as possible for five to ten strokes.
12. Wait one to three minutes.
13. Repeat Steps 11 and 12 three more times.
14. Loosen bleed screw (located in the slave cylinder body next to the inlet connection).
15. Depress and hold clutch pedal while tightening bleed screw 3-5 Nm (27-44 inch lbs.).
16. Refill the reservoir to level at step.
17. The hydraulic system should now be fully bled and should properly release the clutch.

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Hope this helps.

Joe
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