A/C problems?

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LCIKA
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I have a 1999 Cadillac Deville with 125,000 miles that overheats when pulling mountains or sitting in traffic, we replaced the thermostat and that didn't help, we drove it the other day and it started overheating for the 3rd time on a 200 mile trip, when we opened the hood we saw the water pouring out the overflow,we used 12 gallons of water on this 200 mile trip to keep it filled, we see no leaks anywhere, head gasket we were told is not the problem, also our a/c blows cold on passenger side and drivers side and back seat air blows hot?????? we use dexcool in this and always use good gas and the right oil....


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we are just puzzled by all this and need help in what to look for, any help would be appreciated, thanks
Monday, July 30th, 2007 AT 9:17 AM

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Tiny
CLOWNY5706
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Check the head bolt threads. The threads on the block have been known to strech causing it to overheat. You have to drill, rethread and heli-coil it to repair. check out timesert.com under general motor kits to watch a video on the repair. I've seen a lot of N* engines that have had the same problem

This guide can help us fix it

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-air-conditioner-not-working-or-is-weak

Please run down this guide and report back.
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Sunday, September 23rd, 2007 AT 2:52 PM
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For one thing dexcoolant is for 2000 and above, and he is right on the threads comming out of block, if its not leaking and fans run properly you have a headgasket prob.
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Tuesday, September 25th, 2007 AT 12:33 AM
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I have a 1999 Cadillac Sedan Deville. When I turned the air conditioner on for the first time this season I get nice cold air coming out of the vents on the passenger side and hot air blowing out of the two driver side vents. It was working just fine last year. Any suggestions, ideas?
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Tuesday, July 21st, 2020 AT 11:02 AM (Merged)
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Tuesday, July 21st, 2020 AT 11:02 AM (Merged)
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I don't have a cure, but my Cadi has the same problem
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Tuesday, July 21st, 2020 AT 11:02 AM (Merged)
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MARKVELLUTATO
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Took my car to Pep Boys today because I had a coolant leak and I thought it was the reservoir based on where the drip was. I was right. Couldn't believe it cost me $350 for a plastic jug installed. Anyway, when I left, my A/C was really warm and in a few minutes on the dash it said "low refrigerant. No A/C" and the compressor cut off and it was only vent air at that point. I was upset because my A/C has been fine for the 3 1/2 years I've owned the car and I also used it this morning going to the shop. I thought they probably allowed the refrigerant to escape to put in the reservoir so I went back a little bit angry. They checked the A/C System for leaks and told me my evaporator was shot. They could hear it hissing and it would not allow them to recharge with refrigerant. They told me they only pulled out 2 oz of refrigerant when they evacuated the system to install the reservoir. My A/C was really nice. Could it have been working so nice on 2 oz of refrigerant? Do you have any idea what my problem could be? They told me it's a 10 hour job to replace the evaporator because the engine has to be lowered and they don't do that. I'm a little angry at this point and confused!
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Tuesday, July 21st, 2020 AT 11:02 AM (Merged)
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I just posted a reply to your first question before you included these details. The system will not work on only two ounces of refrigerant. For all practical purposes, it's empty. Most systems on larger cars take around 1.5 to 3.5 pounds of refrigerant. The low-pressure cutout switch would trip before half of that was lost.

I would get a second opinion, preferably from an AC specialty shop or a radiator repair shop. Most of them do AC work too. If they too find the leak is in the evaporator, that is fairly common but there is no way anyone could cause it to leak intentionally or unintentionally. It is buried way too deeply inside the heater box. Chalk that up to a bad coincidence. Also, refrigerant escaping from there could take hours to leak out completely, and as it does it expands which is what makes it get real cold. That alone can make it look like the system is working. I recharged the system on my minivan years ago and was impressed when I saw frost coming out of the vents. It was really cold, but the next day it was empty. It was the escaping refrigerant that was making the "cold", not the system itself, and as I realized later, that frost was the refrigerant I was seeing. You can't SEE cold.

Sometimes inexperienced mechanics use the wrong terminology when they say "evaporator". If they are pointing to the unit in front of the radiator, that's the "condenser", and it is another common failure item. That one is relatively easy to replace. Since they said the engine needed to be lowered, (something I've heard about on some GM cars but have never done), that does point to the evaporator in the dash. On most cars the steering column is lowered and the dash assembly is pulled back to get the heater box out. It's still an expensive job on any car.

If the diagnosis IS for the condenser, have the mechanic point out exactly where the leak is. Typically it will be in a corner where the aluminum corroded. If it's in the middle in the front, it may have been hit by a rock. If it looks like it was hit in the back, I'd suspect the first mechanic hit it with a tool. The tubes on the condenser are pretty tough and accidentally bumping it would not damage it. They're also fairly well protected. The person giving you the second opinion will be better able to evaluate that kind of damage.
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Tuesday, July 21st, 2020 AT 11:02 AM (Merged)
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ADAM1610
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When I power on the car and turn the ac on It comes out the top vent not the the bottom blows cold just dont come out the regular vents any one knows what it could be
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Tuesday, July 21st, 2020 AT 11:02 AM (Merged)
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Do you mean it is coming from the defroster vent?
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Tuesday, July 21st, 2020 AT 11:02 AM (Merged)
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ADAM1610
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Yes sorry didn't read my question before I submitted it it comes out the defrost vents
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Tuesday, July 21st, 2020 AT 11:02 AM (Merged)
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Under the dash in the HVAC system are vent doors. They are what direct the air flow. I believe in 99, these vent doors were actuated by engine vacuum. Based on that, I feel there is a vacuum leak not allowing the vent doors to work. Check around for broken, disconnected, or damaged vacuum hoses. Also, there will be a supply hose that runs from the top of the engine through the firewall into the vehicle. Make sure it isn't disconnected or damaged.
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Tuesday, July 21st, 2020 AT 11:02 AM (Merged)
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JAY5SINK
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I found a vacuum hose but dont kno where to find where it broke from to power the doors gor the ac vents
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Tuesday, July 21st, 2020 AT 11:03 AM (Merged)
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MIKE H R
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If you found the end hose, one way to get a general area it is, where was it sitting when you saw it? The area is usually around there close. The piece that broke off may still be on the end and you should be able to find it after some looking.
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Tuesday, July 21st, 2020 AT 11:03 AM (Merged)
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TERRYFORSYTH
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The driver side only blows warm air while it is set on auto and recirc. Cool air will blow on the passenger side. It has a separate control on the passenger side.
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Tuesday, July 21st, 2020 AT 11:03 AM (Merged)
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Its low on freon, you have a leak
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Tuesday, July 21st, 2020 AT 11:03 AM (Merged)
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Does not get cool already took to add freon but that did not work seems there is a block somewhere
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Tuesday, July 21st, 2020 AT 11:03 AM (Merged)
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DOCFIXIT
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Suggest take to a shop that specializes in AC work have diagnosis should be minimal charge the post results will advise.
Ask for High and Low side pressure readings
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Tuesday, July 21st, 2020 AT 11:03 AM (Merged)
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V8 front wheel drive automatic 51,000 miles.

Compressor runs, blower blows but will not cool.
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Tuesday, July 21st, 2020 AT 11:03 AM (Merged)
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I would check the large tube refrigerant line coming from the firewall. If that is cold you have a blend door actuator that sounds like it is out here are two guide that will show you what you are in for when doing the job.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/replace-blend-door-motor

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-air-conditioner-not-working-or-is-weak

Please let us know what you find.

Cheers
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Tuesday, July 21st, 2020 AT 11:03 AM (Merged)
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Hope this is not too late.

You will have to clear the AC codes before the compressor will turn on.

Turn ignition on hold down the "off" and "warmer" (red button) buttons on AC panel for a few seconds. The IPC will freak out for a couple seconds (it is a segment check for the IPC).

After codes are displayed on the IPC message center, you will see the message "PCM?". Press the up arrow (on the fan speed button) until you see ACM? Then press the down arrow.

It should now display "ACM Codes?" press the up arrow. After it displays the ACM codes, it will display "Clear ACM Codes? Press the up arrow and it will then change to "ACM codes cleared".

Now, press the Ooff button a few times to exit diagnostics.

Now your A/C compressor will turn on, as long as there is Freon in the system.
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