Loses power and shuts off while driving?

Tiny
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Also, I used my multimeter and verified that I am getting power to the fuel pump.
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Wednesday, January 3rd, 2024 AT 5:03 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

If you hear the fuel pump run and nothing comes out, either we have a restriction in the fuel supply, or the new pump has also failed.

You indicated there is power to the pump. Is it getting 12v?

If it is getting 12v, and you hear it turn on, then chances are it isn't a ground or power supply. In this case, I feel the pump has failed, or you have a fuel link kinked, restricting fuel flow. You may want to remove the pump and bench-test it to see if it pumps fuel.

Let me know.

Joe
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Wednesday, January 3rd, 2024 AT 5:33 PM
Tiny
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Thank you, Joe. We will bench test it tomorrow.I can't believe I probably had it right the first time and the pump wasn't great. Lol. At least I got a pump. With a warranty.
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Wednesday, January 3rd, 2024 AT 6:42 PM
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Hi,

No problem whatsoever. I hope we can resolve the issue.

Let me know what you find.

Take care,

joe
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Thursday, January 4th, 2024 AT 5:24 PM
Tiny
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Hey Joe.

I watched videos on how to bench test it and I'm worried about trying it, but the pump came with a 90-day warranty, and I was able to get another one. The part was used because the OEM part is 2.7k not kidding. Lol. So unfortunate I'm getting another used one and I will let you know how it goes. Fortunately, I feel like an old pro and it should only take me 10 minutes to out it in.
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Thursday, January 4th, 2024 AT 5:50 PM
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Thanks for the update. I didn't realize it was used. Chances are that is the problem. How much is a new pump? $2,700.00?

Here is a new one for under $80.00. Where are you located?

Let me know.

Joe

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Thursday, January 4th, 2024 AT 6:53 PM
Tiny
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I am in Lebanon Ohio. We have a 2107 Hyundai Elantra se 2.0L. For some reason the other model filters don't fit. Can you send the link for the $80.00 one? I'll make sure it fits before I purchase it.
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Thursday, January 4th, 2024 AT 7:25 PM
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Hi,

That was from Rockauto.com. I put in the engine and vehicle information, and that is the only one that came up. If you want to get it from them, let me know and I get you one of the 5% off discount coupons. BTW, We aren't too far apart. LOL I'm near Pittsburgh.

Here is the exact link that should take you to the part:

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/hyundai,2017,elantra,2.0l+l4,3393930,fuel+&+air,fuel+pump+&+housing+assembly,10147

Let me know your thoughts.

Joe
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Thursday, January 4th, 2024 AT 9:10 PM
Tiny
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I definitely like the steelers a little more now. Lol. So, I looked at the fuel pump on rock auto. I initially tried a new pump similar to the one posted. It did not work because the diameter of the top round piece was much too small to hold the pump. In the tank. Hyundai changed the fuel tanks in 2017 so half of the 2017 models are the older version with the smaller top and the 2017 through 2020's are the newer version. I looked for specs online and cannot find the diameter of the top of this pump. That is why I bought a used one. I am thinking if using sea foam to clean the gas line and putting the next used pump in. I could always order this one and send it back if the diameter is not correct.
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Saturday, January 6th, 2024 AT 6:11 AM
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Hi,

Is this a GT model? I looked it up and there is a different part number.

311102V500 = GT OEM part number

31120F3500 = Other model part number

If possible, let me know the VIN so I can look it up and confirm.

Let me know.

Joe
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Saturday, January 6th, 2024 AT 11:18 PM
Tiny
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Hey Joe,

The VIN is 5NPD84LF3HH193129. It is an Elantra SE.
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Sunday, January 7th, 2024 AT 7:16 AM
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Hi,

The OEM part number is 31120F3500. The one on Rockauto won't fit. See if you can cross-reference the number to a different manufacturer.

Let me know.

Joe
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Sunday, January 7th, 2024 AT 4:29 PM
Tiny
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Hi Joe, I know you've missed me. LOL. So, the fuel pump has arrived. Went in well. The car starts but it is a rough start sometimes. So weird. We will drive it for a while and see if there are any other symptoms. We replaced the battery as well just in case. No codes thrown. Any thoughts on what could be causing the rough start?
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Wednesday, January 24th, 2024 AT 4:11 PM
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Hi,

I have missed you. LOL I hope things are getting better for you.

If you are having a rough start, it could be related to a leaking fuel injector. If the system leaks down too far, it takes a bit longer to get it running.

Try this.

1) Turn the key from off to the run position (engine off) and count to 5.

2) Turn the key to off and repeat step 1 a total of five times.

3) On the sixth time, see if it starts normally.

Try that and let me know what you find.

Joe
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Wednesday, January 24th, 2024 AT 5:10 PM
Tiny
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Well, it starts every time, and it runs beautifully. Like new. Which is amazing. I think the new battery helped also it helps when I turn engine on and count to two and then crank it over. That is when I get the easiest start.
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Friday, January 26th, 2024 AT 8:15 AM
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Well, I spoke too soon. The weirdest thing. I went to pump gas and fuel was leaking out of the bottom of the car and I manually stopped pumping because the gas pump never clicked but I know I don't usually need that much gas. What in the world?
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Friday, January 26th, 2024 AT 10:42 AM
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Hi,

If the fuel leaks out when you are refueling, either the tank is leaking or the filler tube. Have you gotten under the vehicle to check for evidence of where the leak originated?

Also, if it starts easier when you cycle the key, then we either have a weak fuel pump or there is something allowing pressure to drop off. For example, if a fuel injector leaks, you will lose all pressure in the system when the pump is off. If the leak you found is related to the fuel supply line, the same thing can happen.

We need to first locate the leak to determine the source. Once we do that, it will need to be repaired. If the repair doesn't resolve the issue, then a fuel pressure leak-down test will be needed. However, we will cross that bridge if and when we need to.

Let me know.

Joe
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Friday, January 26th, 2024 AT 7:20 PM
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Hey Joe! Well, the check engine light came on. I got two codes P0455 and P0456. When I go to turn the car on I have to put the key in turn and wait a second or two before I click it over. Once I hear the fuel pump engaged it cranks over but if I just put the key in and try to turn it on right away it cranks but does not start. I read that the purge control solenoid is common in Hyundai Elantra's but I am guessing the large leak has something to do with how I put the fuel pump? Any thoughts?
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Thursday, February 8th, 2024 AT 8:01 AM
Tiny
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So, I did some looking online. The Home test for the purge control was to take the line that brings fuel into the calve off and to run the car for 5 minutes during which time there should be no vacuum and then after engine warms up there should be a vacuum. I did this and there was no vacuum until the car had run for about 6 minutes and then I could hear the valve opening and closing. I visually examined all of the hoses and I didn't see any leaks and I looked under the car and did not see any leak from the fuel tank. I'm stumped. Lol.
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Thursday, February 8th, 2024 AT 12:16 PM
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The codes indicate an EVAP leak. What needs to be done is a smoke test. Basically, smoke is injected into the EVAP system at a very low pressure. If there is a leak, the smoke will come out at that point.

There is a chance something was disconnected when the pump was done.

Keep in mind, since the codes are related to an EVAP leak, you shouldn't see fuel. Instead, the fuel vapors are what are leaking. Check around the EVAP canister. See pic below

Let me know.

Joe

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Thursday, February 8th, 2024 AT 2:58 PM

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