Will not crank over

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Hello again,

Okay, so where are we. Okay, so we are not sure on fuse 8. Okay, let's start over. In the diagrams down below I have included a wiring diagram of your vehicle's starting circuit. This is going to be what we are going to be working off of, so we are on the same sheet of music, so to speak, and we both have a common point of reference. Don't worry about reading it, that's what I am here for. I will explain what needs to be tested and why we are testing it. This is going to be a systematic process of elimination that will lead to the problem, so please, one thing at a time. Okay, look at the wiring diagram and locate the battery in the lower left hand side of the diagram and get back to us when you have got it, please.

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Alex
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Thursday, October 17th, 2019 AT 1:21 PM
Tiny
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Okay, I found the battery in it. Now what do I do?
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Sunday, October 20th, 2019 AT 9:04 AM
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Also I did the voltage test on the battery it is saying 12.45.
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Sunday, October 20th, 2019 AT 9:06 AM
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I hate to annoy you, but I am at a loss as to how to understand the wiring schematic. However I can say that in the fuse box under the hood the number 7 and 8 being the first 2 at the top on the left being the larger sized fuses 1.A 40 2.(8) a 30 do not light up at all when using a test light. Do I take out these fuses and put the dmm in it to test for a reading?
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Sunday, October 20th, 2019 AT 9:17 AM
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Hello,

Sorry for taking so long to get to you. I've been preoccupied dealing with a personal matter, and I apologize. Okay, so you've identified the battery on the wiring diagram. Next follow the red wire all the way to the left coming from the battery going towards the top of the page to a perforated box. On the right hand side of the perforated box it says Battery Junction Box [BJB] and then gives it's description in your vehicle. This represents a red wire coming from the positive battery terminal go to the Battery Junction Box [Fuse Box] in your vehicles engine compartment. In the perforated box is a representation of the wire continuing and then it goes to Fuse 8 in the BJB. Please check fuse 8 in your BJB. This is the next component the battery voltage must pass through to make it to your vehicle's starter. Here is a link below to a guide explaining how to test a fuse:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-a-car-fuse-works

You should have a diagram and callout of the BJB in a previous reply. Go through the guide, locate and check fuse 8, and report back with what you find, and we will go from there, if needed.

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Alex
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Sunday, October 20th, 2019 AT 7:36 PM
Tiny
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I will go do this in a minute. But I wanted to say last night I had a computerized obd2 scan ran on it and it says my clutch position sensor is bad and that my computer memory has a error. Does that mean I need to get another computer?
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Tuesday, October 22nd, 2019 AT 7:47 AM
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Hello again,

What was the DTC numbers?

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Tuesday, October 22nd, 2019 AT 2:47 PM
Tiny
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DTC numbers I do not know what those are. But I know that it was a digital hand held scanner that hooked up to the obd2 port under the driver side dash. It was ran on the setting with engine not running and the only issues it gave were for the clutch/neutral switch being bad and the computer had a error. But it didn't say what the error was. I changed switch and followed a tip on resetting the computer where I disconnect the positive then negative cables from the battery and then hold them together without touching the battery itself for 5 minutes then reconnecting the battery up. Tried to start it and still nothing except that I now hear a beep coming from the computer area. Which is also where the seimens vdo contr asy-r/contr lk and alarm system is located. Which is a black box with 5or6 plug style harnesses goes into that. When I opened it up I found a piece broken off and missing from a chip on the inside. I am including a picture what is. Your thoughts at this point?
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Tuesday, October 29th, 2019 AT 3:06 AM
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Hello again,

The Direct Trouble Code[s][DTC][s], or "codes", are the codes that came up on the screen of the OBD2 code reader that you plugged into your vehicle. The DTC[s] consist of a letter and then 4[four] numbers. Please report back with the DTC[s] numbers that your code reader pulled from your vehicle.

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Tuesday, October 29th, 2019 AT 2:24 PM
Tiny
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It wasn't like a little hand one it was more like a touch screen tablet and I don't recall seeing a code on it like I do on mine. But it said that my clutch pedal switch the thing that has a little button like thing that pushes in when you push the clutch in and also it said the computer had a error, but it didn't say what the error was. I will ask the person that owns it if the information is still in it and I will get back to you it if so.
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Tuesday, October 29th, 2019 AT 5:16 PM
Tiny
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Sounds good. the clutch safety switch when bad will not allow the engine to crank over. here is guide to help also this guide can show you how to get the codes yourself:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/starter-not-working-repair

Please run down these guides and report back.
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Saturday, November 2nd, 2019 AT 1:02 PM

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