Will not stay running, engine stalls while driving?

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AJ78
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Thanks Steve. We will give it a try.
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Monday, September 21st, 2020 AT 11:21 AM (Merged)
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STEVE W.
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Let us know what you find. The TIPM is one of those "why did they do this" type of parts. Virtually everything electronic on the vehicle is run through it. As an example. Take those simple headlights on the front, for years they were controlled by a simple switch, then it was a switch and relay. With the TIPM each filament is independent, right hand low beam uses a different circuit than left hand low beam. If one goes out and you check the bulb and fuse and both are good, you replace the TIPM ! Many items are the same way, Horn relay? Part of the TIPM.
One minor advantage is that you can use a scan tool and dealer sales codes to activate some options like fog lights or DRL's if you do not have them.

The downside is that something that may have been a simple, replace this relay repair, now means you replace a very expensive box.
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Monday, September 21st, 2020 AT 11:21 AM (Merged)
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Steve W. We replaced the EGR Valve and it has taken care of the problem. Much, much cheaper fix than replacing the TIPM.
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Monday, September 21st, 2020 AT 11:21 AM (Merged)
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STEVE W.
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Well that is a different fix. EGR should not even be operating at that point. Was it stuck open or plugged or what? How did you determine it was the EGR? Might be something that would help others.
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Monday, September 21st, 2020 AT 11:21 AM (Merged)
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Not sure if it was plugged or stuck open. Mechanic had done some other research and found that this could be the problem. Said they had another Chryler vehicle in lately that had the same problem so thought it could be the same for ours as well. Sure enough, it was. Hopefully others with the same problem in the future could give this a try before replacing the TIPM.

Greatly appreciate all your help and input.
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Monday, September 21st, 2020 AT 11:21 AM (Merged)
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RTURNER47802
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  • 2008 DODGE CARAVAN
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While driving, the car looses all power and shuts down. Power steering/power brakes do not work and you have to coast to a stop. Traction /Stability control light comes on instrument panel. After stopping and shutting the ignition off, the car will start right back up.

This is starting to occur frequently.
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Monday, September 21st, 2020 AT 11:21 AM (Merged)
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Has the check engine light come on?
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Monday, September 21st, 2020 AT 11:21 AM (Merged)
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The check engine light has not come on.

We've replaced battery and new wheel bearings recently.
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MYRON DYSERT
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The vehicle is listed above Grand Caravan, 6 speed automatic transmission with approximately 169,000 miles.

The engine shuts at random but usually at idle or deceleration. Unless the ignition switch is reset to accessory or off, cranking speed is very slow. Upon reset of switch to the aforementioned positions cranking speed is normal and engine restarts immediately. The throttle body was replaced by the mechanic. No codes except catalytic converter which has been replaced twice with the code returning within a few thousand miles. The engine does use oil which I believe is valve guide caused (light blue smoke, engine compression decent). There is some knock at partial throttle when climbing a hill. Vacuum is fairly steady at 20.4. No misfires detected by scanner. Timing at number one cylinder does fluctuate 7 to 10 degrees at idle. Transmission shift points seem normal although never the smoothest transmission I have known.
Acceleration to highway speeds and maintenance of highway speeds doesn't seem to be a problem until stall at deceleration which occurs at irregular intervals (Days, hours or minutes). Will any diagnostic systems be able to track this down or is this a comprehensive technician study problem? I have read several forums which indicate this is a common problem with these vans but they are usually complaints with few or no resolutions to the problem. I am 67 and have driven some lousy vehicles but this one has become a scary amusement park ride.
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Monday, September 21st, 2020 AT 11:21 AM (Merged)
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KEN L
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Hello,

This is a common problem when the TIPM goes out which is easy to replace because it self initializes. Here are the instructions in the diagrams below to help fix the problem. Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know if you need anything else to get the problem fixed.
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My van has stalled twice while driving on the interstate. It is just like I had truned the key off. All power is lost. I found where other people had the same problem on the internet but no solution.

Do you have any idea what the cause could be?

I made a donation last time but did not receive an answer to date.

Thanks,

Bruce Keene
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Monday, September 21st, 2020 AT 11:21 AM (Merged)
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Bruce,
Let me start by saying that I am sorry you received no reply. That shouldn't have happened. Regardless, I will try to help you.

When you say you loose all power, do you mean from the engine or everything like the lights, radio?
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Monday, September 21st, 2020 AT 11:21 AM (Merged)
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Engine was running rough took to autozone said egr valve last night I drove van and shut it off. When I went back to start it it started and died when I went to put in gear did it three times. Now nothing all guages and lights work nothing when you turn it over
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Monday, September 21st, 2020 AT 11:22 AM (Merged)
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MERLIN2021
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You can try a self-diagnostic test. To activate self diagnostic program:

With the ignition switch in the OFF position, depress the TRIP and RESET buttons.
While holding the TRIP and RESET button turn the ignition switch to the ON position.
Continue to hold the TRIP and RESET buttons until the word CODE appears in the odometer windows (about five seconds ) then release the buttons. If a problem exists, the system will display Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC's). If no problem exists, the code 999 (End Test) will momentarily appear.
Post all codes and we can go from there.
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Monday, September 21st, 2020 AT 11:22 AM (Merged)

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