Number two cylinder misfire

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If the rear O2 tracks the front one voltage wise it's not a good sign, another test would be to use an IR thermometer and look at the temperature of the front of the converter versus the rear. I'd worry about the misfires first though. The converter won't cause misfires, but misfires can damage the converter. This shows a few tests:
https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-a-catalytic-converter

So far the ignition side looks like it could be a cause of the misfire, but it also looks like the engine is running rich.
To test the MAF you can check the output voltage if your scan tool will show it or the airflow in grams. Just turn on the key, don't start the engine. The flow should be zero and the voltage should be zero as well. If either one is something else either the MAF or the ECM is faulty.
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Thursday, December 10th, 2020 AT 9:16 PM
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This is the reading from the mass airflow sensor key on engine off. So I'll go ahead and exchange the new ignition coil for another one just in case. I'm sorry for all the questions. But how do I test the IAT sensor cam and crank sensors? Also since the MAF sensor is functioning properly.
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Friday, December 11th, 2020 AT 6:51 AM
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I also forgot to mention that I had a half a tank of gas and I added fuel injection cleaner and CRC emissions system cleaner. Will that mess up the gas with so little in the tank?
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Friday, December 11th, 2020 AT 6:55 AM
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I only started adding the stuff after the car started running rough.
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Friday, December 11th, 2020 AT 6:57 AM
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One quick observation I made; I called the parts store and they told me that that year make and model of car supposed to have a 2 terminal connector coil pack and this only has one. It looks like the wires were routed for 1 connector because they have been splicedm but it ran fine with the old coil before things went bad. So I'm thinking the motor is a replacement.
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Friday, December 11th, 2020 AT 7:49 AM
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When I purchased wires for that car they gave me wires for a 2000 Hyundai Elantra and they weren't long enough. So they looked up a 2001 Hyundai Elantra and they work perfect. So I think we're working with a 2001 Hyundai motor.
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Friday, December 11th, 2020 AT 7:54 AM
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Sorry about so many replies. But we found the exact replica of the original coil packs and that's off of a 1999 Hyundai Elantra.
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Friday, December 11th, 2020 AT 9:25 AM
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Sounds like someone has been doing some alterations. These are the ignition wiring diagrams for the 2000 and 01, the coils are different with the 98-2000 using a coil with a single power feed and 2 control wires while the 01 used two coils with two power feeds. That really shouldn't be an issue, however if that is really an 01 engine, that could cause an issue as they changed multiple items in the engine control system and the engine itself between 2000 and 2001. What makes me suspicious is the number in the last image, that looks like a salvage yard number written on there for tracking and warranty purposes. Looking at the crank sensor and cam sensors, they look the same but the part numbers are different in the books which usually means the sensor was also changed in some way. Plus internal parts for some items are different as well, the camshaft for instance shows a different part number between 2000 and 2001 but uses the same cylinder head. The MAF is a different part between them as are other important parts. They are designated as a Beta 1 engine through 2000 and the 01 is a Beta 2 engine. To confuse things even more they changed things using the build date so a car built before 3/10/1999 used one engine while ones built after that date had different parts.

However if it was running okay prior to this things may be set up correctly but it also may have been a "well it runs, ship it" situation and something wasn't quite correct and has now caused a problem. What I would do is try to determine what that engine really is then at least you know what you have. For that I would find any numbers you can on the engine and see what those turn up online. If you can contact the people you got the car from they might be able to shed some light on the issue as well.
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Friday, December 11th, 2020 AT 12:34 PM
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The wires that came off of the car originally say beta 1 on them and when I went to the parts store they gave me wires for a 2000 Hyundai Elantra. They weren't long enough so I asked them for wires for a 2001 and they fit perfect. Apparently those wires are for a beta 2 engine. When I went to exchange the coil pack today I took the original up there and it was a replica of a 1999 Hyundai Elantra. So I am very confused and I will get ahold of original owners to be clear.
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Friday, December 11th, 2020 AT 2:12 PM
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That would be a good starting point. Hyundai used the same basic 2.0 engine in two US vehicles the Elantra and the Tiburon but with slightly different parts and programming for the cars. Then to make it more confusing they stopped using the Beta 1 in 2000 on the Elantra but used it until 2001 in the Tiburon. From what you have I suspect they got a used engine and swapped over the parts from the original to the "new" engine so the parts fit. The question then is, what was the "new" engine actually from and which version is it.
Because it did run okay I'm thinking the parts are likely correct, but it would be good to know what you have. For instance they altered things like the fuel injectors on the newer engine to flow more fuel, if you had the 2.0 from say a 2001 Elantra with the Beta 2 engine then the reason it runs rich could be in those injectors. At least knowing what it actually is would give you a start.
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Saturday, December 12th, 2020 AT 6:21 AM
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These are the colors of my wires and they are spliced into a single connector.
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Saturday, December 12th, 2020 AT 8:55 AM
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By the way, what do the numbers mean beside the colors on the wire diagram you sent me?
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Saturday, December 12th, 2020 AT 9:16 AM
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I used this chart to check the coil and it tested good. So assuming everything is good for now what can I check next? I cannot get a hold of the old owners on the car at the moment. Remember spark plugs are brand new and gapped correctly and wires are also new, the fuel pump and filters are currently new. When I had the p0300 p0301 and p0303 I sprayed the throttle with throttle cleaner. Also cleaned the IAC valve and changed the coil and got rid of those codes and immediately acquired p0302.
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Saturday, December 12th, 2020 AT 10:49 AM
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I made a mistake the wires from the harness up to where they're spliced are green white and brown and the wires that are on the connector is red yellow and black.
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Saturday, December 12th, 2020 AT 2:33 PM
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Better if I sent a pic.
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Saturday, December 12th, 2020 AT 3:12 PM
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The numbers are wire sizes..5 is 1/2 mm. Green, white and brown would be the colors for a Beta 1 harness. That would match the coil you have.
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Saturday, December 12th, 2020 AT 6:44 PM
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That's where it gets mysterious because the ignition wires are for a 2001 Hyundai and the wires I got for a 2000 Hyundai weren't long enough and I haven't figured anything out about the numbers written on the valve cover. The previous owners wont communicate with me about it. Anyways, when I get the new coil installed I will have more info. Thank you so far for all the advice.
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Saturday, December 12th, 2020 AT 10:29 PM
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There should be an engine number stamped on the block either below the thermostat housing or on the flange on the transmission side of the block. Google that number and it might help with the engine information. I almost think you have the newer engine but the wiring was altered to make it work and parts from the old engine were used because they were okay. Something like the old engine blew and this one was put in using the working parts from the original. In theory it should work unless there were internal changes, which there were. However it did run so the trick will be why did it suddenly stop running. Because it looks like the engine is running lean by the way those plugs are sooted up I suspect that the injectors are larger than the "old" engine, that carbon then creates a way for the spark to go and you get the random misfires. What I would probably do at this point would be to install the new coil, and new plugs, or clean the ones you have really good to remove the carbon. Then see what it does. If it runs okay, then I would consider doing a top cylinder cleaning using something like seafoam to remove some of the carbon. Then see if it still makes the plugs carbon up. If it does then I would check the fuel pressure to make sure it's in spec and maybe pull an injector to see if the part number on them matches the ones for the year and engine the car should have in it.
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Sunday, December 13th, 2020 AT 2:49 AM
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Great place to start. Thank you and I will do it soon. I will get back to you with results.
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Sunday, December 13th, 2020 AT 7:34 AM
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I drove the car and got to about 30 miles per hour and it threw a code p0302 like always. But now live stream is saying open loop fault. I sent an attachment so you can see it.
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Sunday, December 13th, 2020 AT 3:03 PM

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