No starter operation? Not cranking over?

Hello,

It sounds like the battery is going out. Lets do this test to confirm.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-load-test

Please run this test and get back to us we are interested to see what it is.

Cheers, Ken

Since the problems you have are not directly related, are you certain there is power to the fuses in question?

I have attached a few pics below. Before going to the relay sockets, check the fuses I circled in the pic.

Look at pic 4. I placed a + where there should be power when the key is on but not in the start position. The two sides of the relay that I circled power when the key is in the start position and allows power to flow to the starter relay.

One other thing. Confirm the wires on the PCM in pic 3 are not damaged. I have seen them fail.

Let me know.

While reading this I figured this was a fuel issue but that cluster is shutting off like the key was switched off. This is exactly why we love it when we get videos.

Just looking at this since it shuts off right away, that points to a theft issue. I can't remember but is that the theft light in the upper right corner of the cluster?

I attached a picture below. I am pretty sure that is a red lock which is the theft light. If you notice it stays on the entire time so we need to check for codes. Then we need to use a spare key because maybe the resistor in the key has failed.

Here is a guide that will help with checking for codes:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

Let's see if there are any and go from there. Thanks

Got it.

It is odd that this light stays on the entire time so we should cross off the basics and load check the battery. Let's make sure it doesn't have a shorted cell. Here is a guide that talks about this:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-load-test

You can just take it out and take it to a parts store and they will load check it for you. Let us know if the batter checks out and then we can figure out other reasons for that to stay on but all other lights in the cluster go off.

If the vehicle was just stalling then I would expect all the normal cluster lights and center message center to stay on as well but everything shuts off but that light so it is being shut down and a shorted battery would cause this.

That is actually not bad. The fuel pump does not continuously run so after 5 minutes, I am not surprised to see that amount of bleed off.

As for the battery, it could. I agree that it is not normal characteristics of a battery but I have been burned enough by failed batteries causing odd things that we always need to cross off the basics before we move on. The only reason is we will chase our tail and spend a lot of time and money just because the battery was failed and we didn't check it because it didn't seem like it was the issue.

I agree that I expect it to be ok but again, let's just make sure it can pass a load check.

Understood. Thanks for that info. Please let us know what they find because I am curious about this one. Thanks

Thanks for the update. That is great that you got it going. Please come back to 2CarPros in the future. Thanks