No power to injectors in throttle body

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Some thing at tank leaking i'll repair that first
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Friday, January 13th, 2017 AT 1:15 PM
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Use hose pinch-off pliers to pinch the rubber hose after the gauge test port if you can, then measure the pressure when you cycle the ignition switch on. It should go much higher than 15 pounds. It's the regulator that keeps the pressure from going too high, and to do that, fuel flows through it, then back to the tank. If you aren't seeing any fuel run out when the return hose is disconnected, either the pump's pressure isn't high enough, or you have the hoses switched on the throttle body.
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Friday, January 13th, 2017 AT 2:07 PM
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Finally got it to crank and run will idle but doesn't wont to take throttle finally drove 2 miles down and 2 back backfired multiple times. Buddy looked 1 injector not working pull out put back in then other injector quit firing wont do anything again. Codes after running 15 minutes were 12 33 24 27 55 when I turn key on have 62 lbs. Fuel pressure. Fuel leak fixed. My buddy said thought crankshaft positioner was by harmonic balancer there is a bracket there with an empty plug above it.
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Sunday, January 15th, 2017 AT 12:01 PM
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That's not the crank sensor. That is a holder for a dealer-only timing tool. I worked for a very nice family-owned Chrysler dealership through all of the '90s, and never saw that tool or needed to use it. The one you're referring to at the vibration damper is a GM thing on some of their engines.

For the intermittent injectors, look at the two terminals in the connectors that look like the tops of little black eggs. Use a pick to squeeze those tighter so they make better contact.
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Monday, January 16th, 2017 AT 6:41 PM
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THANKS I'LL TRY THAT TODAY
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Tuesday, January 17th, 2017 AT 5:02 AM
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Squeezed terminals back together on injector caps 1 started back firing, the other now has power but injector's not letting gas through will put in new injector today that is the origional I replaced other injector 6 months ago.
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Friday, January 20th, 2017 AT 4:32 AM
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New injector did nothing now will change map sensor running on 1 injector code 24 27 slowly moving forward
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Wednesday, January 25th, 2017 AT 4:32 AM
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If it's running on one injector the issue isn't the MAP. The PCM uses the same sensors and controls for both injectors. The difference is that it uses the O2 sensors to tell it if one side or the other is running lean/rich and alters the pulse width accordingly.

Sounds more like you have a power issue to the second injector. Either a bad wire/connector or even a blown drive transistor in the PCM. Go rent a set of NOID lights and plug one into the injector harness that isn't firing. No light = no control signal or no power.
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Wednesday, January 25th, 2017 AT 12:12 PM
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Worked on truck this p.M. I have 5 volts to throttle positioning sensor. Still only 1 injector working. Will go to dodge and buy a new sensor the aftermarket 1 the teeth inside are at a different location when cranks backfires
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Sunday, January 29th, 2017 AT 12:29 PM
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You aren't going to solve a running problem by replacing the throttle position sensor. That one has the least effect on fuel metering calculations. What CAN happen, since no two sensors are ever alike, is the new one can read a higher voltage at closed-throttle than the old one did. If that happens, the Engine Computer may not see the "minimum throttle" voltage it is waiting to see to know when it must be in control of idle speed. It may assume your foot is on the accelerator pedal, and leave idle speed up to you. That can result in a no-start unless you hold the accelerator pedal down 1/4".

You need to look at all three voltages on the TPS. It sounds like you found the 5.0 volt feed wire. The ground wire should have 0.2 volts. The signal wire will have between roughly 0.5 and 4.5 volts, lower at closed-throttle. If you find the normal range of signal voltage, that can only be there if the ground and feed wires are correct.

Also consider there can be a break in the signal wire. That will result in you finding the correct signal voltage at the sensor, but the computer will see 5.0 volts, which is not an acceptable voltage. The best way to look at any sensor voltage is with a scanner so you can see what the computer is seeing.

There are multiple versions of throttle position sensors. The difference is in the orientation of the plug.

When only one injector is firing, swap the connectors to verify the other injector works.
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Sunday, January 29th, 2017 AT 1:36 PM

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