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Tiny
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I changed the O2 sensor on the front exhaust already. Took it off and ran engine as well to check catalytic converter. Fact that it idles great but won't go when press gas is leading to fuel pressure control valve or pressure sensor on rail. Wish I knew which one before spending the big money.
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Monday, December 18th, 2023 AT 10:29 AM
Tiny
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So, no sense in changing out the ECT since you think 94% and it's good? I will go under and tap the converter as well. Which two O2 sensors do I take off and run engine? I think I heard you do something like that to test the catalytic converter.
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Monday, December 18th, 2023 AT 10:35 AM
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We might be barking up the wrong tree, the P0088 code "Fuel Rail/System Pressure - Too High." Which means the high pressure pump pressure regulator has gone bad or the sensor is bad, lets try replacing the sensor and if that doesn't help the high pressure pump will need to be replaced. Here are the instructions to help us fix the problem. Check out the images (below). Please let us know what happens.
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Tuesday, December 19th, 2023 AT 12:13 PM
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If you have a part number handy it would save me a ton of time. If not, no big deal. I'm extremely grateful for your help!
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Tuesday, December 19th, 2023 AT 12:16 PM
Tiny
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So, from what I see it's called the rail pressure sensor.
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Tuesday, December 19th, 2023 AT 12:20 PM
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Looks like I'll be down near the injectors. Do anything to them, clean?
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Tuesday, December 19th, 2023 AT 12:22 PM
Tiny
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Yup, not a clue which part I'm looking for. Sorry for being such a rookie.
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Tuesday, December 19th, 2023 AT 12:30 PM
Tiny
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I'm pretty sure this is it https://www.amazon.com/Injection-Pressure-2006-2022-Compatible-0281002863/dp/B0CHFXBYNR
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Tuesday, December 19th, 2023 AT 12:31 PM
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Kia 353422E610
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Tuesday, December 19th, 2023 AT 12:39 PM
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Here is what the sensor looks like which is the one you found on Amazon. I would change that out and if that does not fix it, I would change out the high-pressure fuel pump.
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Thursday, December 21st, 2023 AT 9:47 AM
Tiny
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I have that part arriving tomorrow. I've been searching for two hours for a video or diagram that makes sense of where this thing is located. I know it's on the fuel rail, but there are no videos showing how to do it. Not sure what to remove. I even tried to get a video on how to get to injectors which would get me to the rail.
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Thursday, December 21st, 2023 AT 10:06 AM
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Hello,

Sorry for the delay, I've been a little under the weather. I see you want to tackle the fuel rail pressure sensor (RPS). I will write the instructions below, the intake manifold will need to come off.

1. Release fuel line pressure.
(I like to pull the fuel pump relay and crank the engine over a couple of times)
2. Remove the engine cover.
3. Remove the air cleaner assembly.
4. Remove the surge tank.
5. Remove the low pressure fuel line.
- careful, there still may be residual pressure here when you crack the nut, put a towel over is as you turn-
6. Remove the intake manifold (A).
(See image 1)

-Note, try to protect the intake ports with the manifold off, as engine coolant may run into them, causing some issues when starting-

Now you should be able to see the fuel rail pressure sensor (See image 2). It should have a nut on it and be fairly straight-forward at this point.

Installation is the reverse of removal, torque for the intake manifold is below, and order of tightening is in image 3.

Tightening torque
Step 1 (a - h) : 3.9 - 5.9 N m (0.4 - 0.6 kgf m, 2.9 - 4.3 lb ft)
Step 2 (1 - 8) : 26.5 - 31.4 N m (2.7 - 3.2 kgf m, 19.5 - 23.1 lb ft)
Step 3 : Repeat 2nd step twice or more.

Let me know how it goes,
William
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Thursday, December 21st, 2023 AT 5:38 PM
Tiny
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Awesome! Thanks so much. I hope you feel better and I will give you an update tomorrow night.
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Thursday, December 21st, 2023 AT 5:51 PM
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Thanks, I'm looking forward to some good news!

-William
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Thursday, December 21st, 2023 AT 5:57 PM
Tiny
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Pulled it all apart, replaced the sensor on the rail, put it all together, started it and gas was gushing from the bottom of the engine. Nothing coming out of the top. Taking a quick time out and then going back to tear it all apart again and try to find where the leak is coming from. Maybe I didn't tighten the sensor enough, not sure.
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Friday, December 22nd, 2023 AT 1:37 PM
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Hello,

Oof, that's not good. Make sure the o-ring is seated well on the sensor and compare it to the old sensor. Before starting, let the car prime fuel pressure and check for leaks during that time before you decide to send the fire.

Let me know,
William
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Friday, December 22nd, 2023 AT 2:09 PM
Tiny
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That wasn't it. Had more help from my neighbor who is an old school mechanic and his friend stopped by. They discovered the new ignition coil I bought wasn't working and they decided to do a compression test. Both said it is the injectors. So I will change them out.
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Friday, December 22nd, 2023 AT 3:57 PM
Tiny
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Hello,

I'm sorry, but I don't follow what you're saying. Certainly, a bad coil can cause issues, but not about leaking gas. Most definitely a bad injector can leak gas, but a compression test would not lead one to believe an injector is bad.

Likewise, a fuel leak would not cause the code P0088 you were having about high fuel pressure. However, I could see too high of pressure cause an injector to leak, and at that point I would replace the high-pressure pump.

Could you give us some more insight on the problem?

Thanks,
William
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Friday, December 22nd, 2023 AT 4:16 PM
Tiny
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The fuel leak was my fault. I didn't tighten the fuel injection sensor enough. It was loose and that's where the gas was coming from. Put it back together again and still same issue. The boys did a compression test and told me it is most likely injectors, but after reading your post it probably isn't. I've ordered injectors to arrive Wednesday. I guess I should put it back on the tester and see what codes I get. I am hoping that the dealership will have an ignition coil in stock so I don't have to wait for shipping. I wish I knew for sure injectors or pump. Can't really afford both. Wanted to take this van to Florida end of the month. Hope you are enjoying some Christmas time off and thank you for keeping up with me!
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Monday, December 25th, 2023 AT 6:17 AM
Tiny
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Hello,

No problem! If the fuel injectors are not leaking, I wouldn't replace them without knowing they are clogged. You can take them out and clean them if you want. A compression test will not tell you anything about injectors considering you are required to cut fuel supply to do the compression test, for safety reasons and because you only need the car to crank.

If you can use your scan tool and read the fuel pressure readings (should be kpa, bar, or psi units), it may lead us in the right direction. The scan tool should also be able to tell the voltage received by the sensor. If the pressure is too high at the rail, then it will need a high-pressure fuel pump. If it looks normal, then we need to start doing some electrical diagnostics.

Have a great holiday!
William
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Monday, December 25th, 2023 AT 6:36 AM

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