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Tiny
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Got them already.
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Monday, November 12th, 2018 AT 4:42 AM
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You are so good!

Let's see if you can figure this out.

Let me know when you are out from under the hood.

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Monday, November 12th, 2018 AT 4:47 PM
Tiny
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I am out from under the hood what is my next step?
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Wednesday, November 14th, 2018 AT 4:30 PM
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All caught up?

Replace the distributor cap after you put the other goodies back in there (covers and rotor button).

Have a large wet towel ready if needed to throw on a small fire, and a fire extinguisher right there if the towel is not enough!

Pour two teaspoons of gas into the throat of the carburetor and quickly put the air breather back on (it will be the best thing to stop a backfire fire from even starting).

Attempt to crank it up!

After 2 or 3 tries let me know what the results are (any actions it does).

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Wednesday, November 14th, 2018 AT 4:49 PM
Tiny
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Forgive me if I missed something but will not putting gas into the carburetor not do anything when I have no spark coming out of my spark plugs? I took the spark plug out with its hat on it and touched it to a ground and checked for spark but I am getting nothing.
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Wednesday, November 14th, 2018 AT 5:34 PM
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Forget the gas right now.

We will try it again when I run you through another test.

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Points are now adjusted to.016" as per my last diagram?

Did you understand the diagram? I was hoping that would be self explanatory. Do I need to explain it better?

This is quite alright if we are not in the same Jeep. I will simply pull up behind you and give you another push with my push bar!

I just need to know what part of the trail you are stuck on.

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Wednesday, November 14th, 2018 AT 7:25 PM
Tiny
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Yes I understood the diagram the points are at.016 they pop and spark. But from the distributor cap to the spark plug wires to the spark plug its self there is no spark.
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Wednesday, November 14th, 2018 AT 8:00 PM
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With everything assembled back together.

Cranking the engine with the starter does not spark at the plugs?

I have not addressed sparking.

Remove one plug (Easy one to get to)

Plug the spark plug wire back onto the removed plug.

Ground the fat hex part of the spark plug to a shiny metal part under the hood (the ear of the alternator would work)

While holding it tight to the ground have someone crank the starter, watch the gap of the plug for a spark.

Watch out for them evil moving parts!

Is this what you have been doing?

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Wednesday, November 14th, 2018 AT 8:20 PM
Tiny
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If you mean have I been testing the spark on the spark plug this whole time no. I am not a mechanic by any means but I can follow directions so to answer your question no haha. I have checked for spark with the spark plug out with the cap on with the hex to a metal surface a few steps ago and just now because you made me curious but there is still no spark there.
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Monday, November 19th, 2018 AT 4:14 PM
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Sorry, it took me a while the air quality was really bad with the fires going on here and we stayed inside.
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Monday, November 19th, 2018 AT 4:15 PM
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Okay,

I have been meaning to make this picture for years!

I can now use it a lot for other car questions.

This is so very important for me to know.

Is this how you are testing for spark?

I do realize you are a novice at all of this stuff, I found out in the army it is sometimes easier to teach marksmanship to someone who had never done it before, as they had not picked up any bad habits yet.

So,

You are doing fantastic so far!

Is this how you are testing for spark?

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Monday, November 19th, 2018 AT 8:28 PM
Tiny
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More or less on the negative side of the battery. It is shiny.
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Tuesday, November 20th, 2018 AT 5:01 PM
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You gave up on me.
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Wednesday, November 21st, 2018 AT 10:05 PM
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Really busy!

Try the spark test on the engine somewhere!

When the sun is not so bright.

Any good results?

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Wednesday, November 21st, 2018 AT 10:22 PM
Tiny
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Gave up?

Never!

We are at a point now that we should see some sparking!

Need that, then we can keep going!

Let's lightly sand them points some more. Do you have a helper?

Second picture, 102 year old WWII vet that I had the privilege of driving him in my Jeep in the November 11th Veterans Day Parade. He was pretty much able get in on his own!

I am hoping that some other folks will send me some pictures they took, I want a picture of the full Jeep in the procession.

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Thursday, November 22nd, 2018 AT 8:44 AM
Tiny
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Still no spark. My heart is breaking!
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Tuesday, November 27th, 2018 AT 11:20 AM
Tiny
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Where you been?

You have delayed a Jeep from being on the road by five days!

I want you to go back to November 12 (My answer, setting the points).

Set/check your point gap with the cam follower on a high point of the cam.

Now it is set with correct gap.

Do not turn the adjustment screw anymore!

Lets do a check.

Rotate the crankshaft with a wrench again. Let's wind up on the next high point of the cam.

The points should be open again!

Check the gap again with your.016" feeler gauge. It should shove into the gap and have "ever so light" tension against the feeler gauge.

Good? I hope so!

Now lets rotate the engine again until the follower (Oops, had to put new batteries in my keyboard) until the follower is in a flat spot, in between two high points on the cam.

Right now the points should be fully closed.

Turn the ignition to "on".

Verify that you have 12 volts at the positive side of your coil.

The negative side of the coil is connected to the distributor.

Let's do the pop sickle thing again.

Do not adjust the points leave the adjuster alone!

Just barely move the arm to crack the points barely open, do it really quickly over and over.

You should be able to hear a faint pop pop pop pop, and observe a blue spark in the points gap.

When you return, verify that your ignition switch works and is correctly hooked up. It does turn the engine over when it is in the "start" position.

What are the results of the "pop-pop" test?

Yes, I want to hear it running more than you do!

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Tuesday, November 27th, 2018 AT 4:47 PM
Tiny
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Sorry the whole house has been feeling sick. Today is the first time I have been able to get up in a while we got some nasty virus. Anyway so you want me to start back at one with the exception of not touching the adjustment screw this time. Since it is daylight out can we settle for just the popping noise for now? Or is that what I did the last time and that is why we are back at this point again.
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Saturday, December 1st, 2018 AT 9:42 AM
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I thought maybe after the points were set (correctly and for keeps) you might have adjusted the screw again to get the popping.

We want the popping to work by only moving the crankshaft to move the distributor shaft so that a flat is lined up with the follower (points now closed) with the points already have been adjusted to where they should (permanently) be in the last step.

Mouthful huh?

Do you understand?

If we get good popping at this point, when it's all back together, we should have good spark at the plugs! (Even if the timing is not right!)

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Saturday, December 1st, 2018 AT 10:58 AM
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Have not heard any news?

You are the "star pupil", you cannot let us down!

I am anxious to hear that there has been some progress!

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Saturday, December 8th, 2018 AT 6:25 PM

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