We don't get involved with costs here because there ARE so many variables. Some shops include things in their quotes that might be needed, then surprise you with a lower bill if possible. Some shops quote the basics to be the lowest cost and get the job, then have to tell you about additional needed things as they're found. Conscientious mechanics are going to replace the timing belt at the same time which only makes sense when they have your best interest at heart. Some mechanics will not because they think they're looking out for your wallet. Hondas use mostly "interference" engines that develop expensive bent valves if the timing belt breaks, and they often break earlier than the recommended replacement interval.
You have an engine problem but you didn't bother to list the engine size or the symptoms so I can't comment on the best course of action. There's seven different engines available. You mentioned head warpage so I might infer you're losing coolant or have white smoke out the tail pipe. If that is correct, there's two things you can do. One is to add a small bottle of dark purple dye to the coolant, then search a day later with a black light. The dye will show up as a bright yellow stain that you can follow back to the source. If you find it inside the tail pipe, the head gasket is leaking.
If you have bubbles blowing into the reservoir or have unexplained coolant loss, there's a chemical test for that. It involves drawing air from the radiator through a glass cylinder with two chambers partially-filled with a special dark blue liquid. If combustion gases are present, the liquid will turn bright yellow. Auto parts stores that rent or borrow tools will have the tester, but they usually make you buy your own bottle of fluid. That's because it will be ineffective if it is contaminated with coolant or if it freezes. They don't want to risk borrowing it to someone after the last person contaminated the fluid.
That fluid can be more expensive than just having a mechanic perform the test. It only takes a few minutes unless it takes a long time for the problem to show up. For example, sometimes the car will only start blowing white smoke after a long drive at highway speed. In a case like that, you'll want to do that right before your appointment at the shop.
To check a cylinder head to see if it's warped, you'd need to take it to an engine machine shop after you clean the surface and give it the proper surface prep for the new gasket to bite into. They'll have a precision straightedge and feeler gauges. The maximum allowable warpage for a cast iron head is.005" in any direction. For an aluminum head it's.002"
When a head with an overhead camshaft is warped it can't be machined flat like the old iron heads were. It has to be heated and straightened or replaced. If you machine them, that doesn't address the camshaft journals which will be out of line too. If that's bad enough, it can cause the camshaft to break, or at the very least, it won't spin freely.
Tuesday, December 20th, 2016 AT 3:06 PM
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