Low Compression?

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FITZ732
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I took my car to pep boys and they did a compression test. 3 cylinders are at 180 and number 2 is at 150. They also said that there is alot of oil in number 2. I've taken it to the dealer and they could not locate a leak and said that it should not be burning with this low of miles. Pep boys is recommending that I replace the engine, with other components for $2,500. I was wondering if they should be doing more test after reading some of your answers before going straight into replacing the engine?
Monday, July 19th, 2010 AT 5:53 PM

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Tiny
RASMATAZ
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Low compression on one cylinder normally points to exhaust valve leaking which requires a valve job not a whole engine

This guide can help us

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/the-reasons-for-low-compression

Please run down this guide and report back.
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Monday, July 19th, 2010 AT 8:21 PM
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Girl friend backed into a hill and plugged the exhaust with dirt car started and ran for awhile then died now it sounds like the engine is free spinning I checked the timing belt it wasnt broke or out of time
ive done a compression test and all cylinders have only 30 to 60 pounds of pressure if my gauge is working right I just purches the compression gauge so it should be right could the plugged exhaust blown the head gasket or messed up anything else? Thanks for any help you can give
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Thursday, May 7th, 2020 AT 1:05 PM (Merged)
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Hi there,

The first thing to do is make sure that the exhaust is still not blocked up if it is you will have all sorts of problems, check this first.

Mark (Mhpautos)
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Thursday, May 7th, 2020 AT 1:05 PM (Merged)
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I brought the car in about a week ago due to some misfires in cylinders 1, 3, and 4. The mechanic, who is very trusted, did a compression test and said that the 3rd cylinder basically had no compression, only 50 lbs. The 1st and 4th had 200 lbs, while the 2nd had 150. He said that the 3rd cylinder was likely causing the other two to misfire due to non combusted materials pushing back up into the intake.

The mechanic said it was probably a valve problem, and though I've asked him several times he insists it is probably not a head gasket. I agree that I don't see any other symptoms of a head gasket problem. The engine was too old for any valve repairs to do much good without causing other problems, he said. He told me to try, as a last ditch effort, various engine cleaning products.

I tried a number of those, and the engine began to run much more smoothly. Whereas before it would hiccup during acceleration, the acceleration was now near perfect, and there was a lot more power than there had been. The car also ran smoother while driving it.

However, the idle performance of the car got worse. I lost about 200 RPMs off of what was already a low idle. As of today, it now stalls anytime it is not being given gas, but seems to run fine when it is getting gas. Even before I saw the mechanic, the misfires seemed not to occur when giving the engine gas.

So I am trying to figure out #1) why it would have misfired only on idle if the compression on that cylinder was really that bad, in other words, if something caused the compression to be better when getting gas, and #2) what could have happened that would cause the engine to operate more smoothly after being cleaned but at the same time to lose idle RPMs and now to stall altogether.

Thanks!
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Thursday, May 7th, 2020 AT 1:06 PM (Merged)
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HI there,

What you need to do is a wet & dry comp test, tis will prove the sealing quality of the valves, your mechanic should know this and I am amazed that he did not do this very simple test.

Mark (mhpautos)
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Thursday, May 7th, 2020 AT 1:06 PM (Merged)
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My car is not starting and the mancanic said it is not getting enough compression. Now we do not know what to do next.
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Thursday, May 7th, 2020 AT 1:07 PM (Merged)
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When he says it is not giving enough compression what is he basing that on? Did he do a compression test on all cylinders and if so what were the results. To not start that compression must be pretty low and I don't see that many miles on the car yet.
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Thursday, May 7th, 2020 AT 1:07 PM (Merged)
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Engine Mechanical problem
1997 Honda Civic 4 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic

My civic is burning oil especially at start up. I checked compression and it is 180 psi on all cylinders. All cylinders go to 90 on first stroke then 120 psi on next then up to 180. Spark plugs have black soot on them. Engine runs smooth and quiet.

Any ideas for me.
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Thursday, May 7th, 2020 AT 1:07 PM (Merged)
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Could be worn valve guides or seals. Does it burn oil while running or just on start up? The comp will be good if there is oil in thecylinders, that is what is called a "wet" comp test. Try having a cylinder leak down test done, if the air escapes past the rings you know it will need to be bored and new pistons/rings, if the cylinders hold air, it is most likely the valve seals/guides. Also check the PCV valve for proper operation
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Thursday, May 7th, 2020 AT 1:07 PM (Merged)
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My daughter overheated my car and so we blew a head gasket we replaced that and checked the head over it was not warped and we could not find anything else wrong. Now we checked the compression after it was all put together and it is low is this caused by the timing or are the piston rings burnt out or do you think we missed something on the head. Also I should say when they put it back together it kept sheering the pin on the cam shaft pulley so my brother made one out of steel and it quit doing it.
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Thursday, May 7th, 2020 AT 1:07 PM (Merged)
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What compression numbers are you seeing in all four cylinders? How are you compression testing it? It should be testing with all four plugs out and with the throttle plate at wide open, this ensures that the engine is not fighting anything and there are no restrictions.

Are you sure the cam timing is set properly? Set the crank at TDC and the cam gear should be lined up with its marks.
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Thursday, May 7th, 2020 AT 1:07 PM (Merged)
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I have a 1995 Honda Civic Lx 1.5 5 speed. I recently changed the head in it. It ran like a beauty for a five days or so then just died suddenly. The cam chipped itself and it jumped time I set the time and replaced the cam. Still no compression help me please.
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Thursday, May 7th, 2020 AT 1:07 PM (Merged)
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Not sure what "chipped itself" means. But, what is the likelihood that there is something not set right and there is a valve that is open at the wrong time thus giving no compression?
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Thursday, May 7th, 2020 AT 1:07 PM (Merged)
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The cam shaft where the timming belt sprocket goes chipped on the end where the sprocket is bolted to cam where it is slotted at.
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Thursday, May 7th, 2020 AT 1:07 PM (Merged)
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Thanks for the info. You need to double check the settings of the crank and cam as it appears that a valve is slightly open or you have a leak and it should be easy to hear or see.
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Thursday, May 7th, 2020 AT 1:07 PM (Merged)
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When sitting the timming what two pistons remain up and what two remain down
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Thursday, May 7th, 2020 AT 1:07 PM (Merged)
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#1 is always supposed to be up.
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Thursday, May 7th, 2020 AT 1:07 PM (Merged)
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92 honda civic vx. 102k miles. 1.5L vtec

I just ran the compression test. For the dry test the results were: cylinder1: 195psi (6 cranks) 2: 200psi (7 cranks) 3: 200psi (8 cranks) 4: 200psi (8 cranks)
wet test results: cylinder 1: 220psi (7 cranks) 2: 230psi (8 cranks) 3: 230psi (8 cranks) 4: 230psi (7 cranks).

I was told that it should be reading 125-135psi on the dry test. Why do you think it is consistently reading so much higher?
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Thursday, May 7th, 2020 AT 1:07 PM (Merged)
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Could you explain to me how to set my cam and cam shaft to set my timming. If no 1 is always up is it the only one up and the others down? I'm sorry this is my first time on a honda if you could just walk me thru it I would be forever grateful.
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Thursday, May 7th, 2020 AT 1:07 PM (Merged)
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Carbon build-up in the combustion chamber will raise the compression pressure or a head resurfacing job.

Try engine decarbonizing-might work
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