Engine cranks but does not start?

Tiny
NOLA JAX
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  • 2009 GMC CANYON
  • 2.9L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 158,000 MILES
Timing chain (TC) blew out and had to perform a full Cloyes kit replacement.

Timing chain issues with GMC Canyons are a well-known engineering defect.

The funny thing is, it takes about 30 mins. To replace the entire TC kit, but it takes hours upon hours just to tear down the engine to get to the TC.

Now, we have a 'crank no start' situation.

Here are a few test/repairs/inspections we did:

* Timing chain alignment was verified (pretty straight forward)
* Oil pump kit replacement, as the TC destroyed the pump.
* Extensive resealing and gasket replacement
* New spark plugs (as a service step)
* Ignition coils working properly/no DTCs
* Have spark upon cranking
* Have fuel upon cranking
* Fuel injectors working properly/no DTCs
* All DTCs cleared and re-scanned for any new codes; 100% pass/no faults
* All fuses/relays checked OK
* Solid battery power
* Cleaned throttle body (as a service step)
* ZERO compression reading on the gauge (now that took us for a loop)

My business partner seems to think there was a mistake made in the TC installation, but we cannot figure out what that would be.

My gut instinct is, for some reason or another, the Pass lock has kicked-in, not allowing a start.

This is a tough one.

I welcome all your questions, comments and concerns.
Monday, February 26th, 2024 AT 8:21 PM

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Tiny
JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Hi,

That is a nightmare of a job. It calls for around 15+ hours of labor. Ugh!

If you have no compression, it isn't caused by an immobilizer. Either you have the timing completely off or something is causing valves to stick open.

Is it all cylinders that are affected? If possible, could you record it cranking and upload it for me to hear? The good news is I don't believe this is an interference engine.

Let me know.

Joe
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Monday, February 26th, 2024 AT 8:37 PM
Tiny
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We only tested one cylinder as a quick check. Got zero compression.
Tested the gauge to make sure it was working. Checked okay.
Checked another cylinder. Same result.
We sent a fiber optic camera down the intake manifold on one cylinder.
Could see fuel injector working and spark on one port.
And saw the valve stems moving.
While researching, I found comments about disconnecting the fuel relay or pulling the injector fuse for compression testing.
Not sure if that is the issue.
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Monday, February 26th, 2024 AT 11:46 PM
Tiny
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Hi:

The reason for removing the fuse is to prevent fuel from getting into the engine and not being burned. As far as the problem, if you have no compression (0 psi), valves are open at the wrong time. Even with a faulty head gasket, you would have some compression.

I feel confident the timing is off. When you installed the timing chain, were the colored links aligned with the timing sprockets? See pic below.

Let me know.

Joe

See pic below
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Tuesday, February 27th, 2024 AT 5:42 PM
Tiny
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Well, after the zero compression test, we suspected bent valve stems.
Confirmed that yesterday.
TC time marks are fine.
Looking for recommendations on vendors to get a head assembly fully dressed.
Thanks, y’all!
†Stan
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Wednesday, February 28th, 2024 AT 10:36 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

That isn't good news. I didn't think this was an interference engine. The valves must have gotten bent when the chain broke.

As far as repairing the heads, you may be further ahead in finding a good used one. I'm not sure where you are located, so I have no idea who to recommend.

Let me know if I can help in any way.

Take care,

Joe
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Wednesday, February 28th, 2024 AT 6:39 PM

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