I tried to start and it sounded like I flooded the engine?

Tiny
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I drove my truck the other day, came out of Walmart tried to start and it sounded like I flooded the engine. Waited a few minutes, turned it over, started. I called my mechanic, described the problem, he said it might be the fuel pump. Appt September 3rd. Wondering what you may think? I take real good care of it, anyway I can find out what it might be before my appt? Got the FIX device, can't use it because this is a 1995.
Wednesday, August 28th, 2024 AT 9:36 AM

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Tiny
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Hi,

Certainly, it can be a fuel related issue. However, there are other things as well. For example, a faulty crankshaft position sensor or other ignition component. I need the engine size to determine what your vehicle has as far as design.

When this happened, did you notice any dark gray or black smoke from the exhaust? If you did, that usually indicates a rich fuel mixture or in this case, a flooded engine.

What you can do is check the fuel pressure yourself to see if it is within the manufacturer's pressure specifications.

Here is a link that explains how it's done:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-fuel-system-pressure-and-regulator

You will need a fuel pressure gauge, but most parts stores will lend one to you. If you let me know which engine is in the truck, I would be happy to provide the pressure specifications.

In the future, if you suspect the truck may be flooded, hold the throttle pedal to the floor until it starts. By doing this, it shuts down the injectors to eliminate a flooded engine.

Also, I believe this truck has an OBD1 system. It doesn't require a scan tool to retrieve codes.

Here is a link that explains how to retrieve them:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/ford-lincoln-mercury-obd1-1995-and-earlier-diagnostic-trouble-code-definition-and-retrieval

Let me know your thoughts.

Take care,

Joe

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Wednesday, August 28th, 2024 AT 7:11 PM
Tiny
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Not sure engine size, I know it's not the 354, but it 3 something.
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Friday, August 30th, 2024 AT 12:51 PM
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Friday, August 30th, 2024 AT 12:53 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

It is a 351 cubic inch engine. As far as the issue, it could be a faulty crankshaft position sensor. Do me a favor. Take a look through this link and let me know if it mirrors what you have experienced.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/symptoms-of-a-bad-crankshaft-sensor

Also, I attached the fuel pressure specifications below if you want to check pressure.

Let me know if you were able to check for codes using the procedure I mentioned above.

Take care and Happy Labor Day.

Joe

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Friday, August 30th, 2024 AT 8:21 PM
Tiny
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I took the truck in today, what a waste. After a week waiting for an appointment, they said I need to leave it with them for a day or 2 to replicate the problem. Of course I disagreed, Ihave a OB1 reader, can you tell me where I can plug it in, just in case I get a error code? I have been looking at the articles you sent and will gladly try your suggestions. Thanks for the communication. I thought it might be under the hood on the right side called a ecg, but I can't seem to take the cover off. Appreciate it.
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Tuesday, September 3rd, 2024 AT 8:20 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

As far as the location of the data link connector is concerned, it should be under the hood right next to the hood hinge on the driver's side.

Let me know if you are able to find it.

Joe
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Tuesday, September 3rd, 2024 AT 7:48 PM
Tiny
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It happened again, any ideas?
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Thursday, September 12th, 2024 AT 10:34 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

Did is start when you held the fuel pedal to the floor? If it did, I would suggest starting by checking the fuel pressure. I attached a how to link above. The fuel Schrader valve is on the fuel rail to check pressure. Also, there is a fuel pressure regulator on the fuel rail as well. It will have an engine vacuum hose to it. Disconnect the hose and confirm there is no fuel in it.

Next, if the vacuum hose is dry, reconnect it and check pressure. You will need a pressure gauge, but most parts stores will lend one to you. I also attached the manufacturer's fuel pressure specifications below.

Try this and let me know the results. Also, let me know if you tried retrieving codes using the link I included above.

Joe

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Thursday, September 12th, 2024 AT 8:00 PM
Tiny
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I am calling around for someone to test my pressure just to make sure, one want 90.00 to check it and try a wavw something or other(not really sure). Others insist I leave it with them so they can drive it around to see if the problem happens again. Not really sure what to do, any recommendations would help. I am getting no engine lights, no codes yet, whay can't car mechanics check the simplest things becuase they have the tools and knowledge without trying to charge me or get over on me?
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Monday, September 16th, 2024 AT 10:00 AM
Tiny
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Is there any way we can determine if it's the pump, regulator, filter or whatever without one of these places trying to rip me off?
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Monday, September 16th, 2024 AT 10:08 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

The only thing I can suggest is this. When it won't start, see if it will if you use starting fluid. If it does, then we will know there is likely a fuel pressure related issue.

Or, if you think it is flooding, when this happens, remove a spark plug to see if it is wet with fuel.

One other thought. There could be an ignition related issues. If it won't start, check to see if there is spark at the plugs. Here is a link that explains how it is done:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-for-ignition-spark

Those are the only other ways I can think of. Let me know if you are comfortable performing them.

Joe
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Monday, September 16th, 2024 AT 7:51 PM
Tiny
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Took truck to shop today, turns out it was the distributor pickup assembly, no spark. Appreciate all the help and thanks for being there.
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Tuesday, October 1st, 2024 AT 5:14 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

Thanks for the update. It almost is always fuel or spark related. I'm glad you got it resolved.

Take care and feel free to come back anytime in the future.

Joe
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Tuesday, October 1st, 2024 AT 7:50 PM

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