ECM replacement?

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Check that EMIS 2 15amp fuse as well. Make sure it looks okay, has no signs of heat which would indicate resistance in that area. That fuse feeds the fan relays as well.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 1:49 PM
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That's not good because I’m red/green colorblind, lol. But I do know enough (40 years HVAC ) not cars though, (different animal) The car is old but in excellent condition, like new.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 1:50 PM
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I’ll pull the fuse box, and check it out. Maybe at least I’ll find the ECM. Thanks for your input.
By the way, my relay terminals are different than your schematic, 37 goes to clutch coil, 87 is hot all the time. I know it’s irrelevant but I just wanted you to know. I realize you can’t put the relay in wrong by design.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 1:54 PM
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I only have one fan on the condenser.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 1:55 PM
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https://www.2carpros.com/images/question_images/377149/large.jpg
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 1:59 PM
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I don’t think emis2 is a problem, because the voltage there is good, while the other side of relay is not a constant ground when A/C is on.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 2:01 PM
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I’ll check it out as you say though. Thanks
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 2:02 PM
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Then yes on pin 86, if you're reading 3v, that's voltage drop on the ground circuit to the ECM, or one of the ECM grounds is corroded. The ECM grounds are going to the top right of the engine block. But if you can follow the dark green/white wire from the fuse block and see if you find any contact points where it might have rubbed threw and got corroded inside. But that ECM is in the left front of the engine compartment. Probably under the fuse block. It's got 2 bulk connectors going to it.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 2:03 PM
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Left front facing the car?
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 2:06 PM
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That's odd about the pins being backwards. I'm going to check if it's different on another model. But these diagrams are from All Data. It says pin 30 comes from A/C clutch fuse and 87 goes to compressor.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 2:09 PM
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Yes, facing the engine, left front is ECM.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 2:11 PM
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Help. I’ve loosened the two screws and 5 plastic tabs, but the rear of the fuse box won’t release.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 2:39 PM
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Here's the instructions for pulling the top off. They can be tricky.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 2:46 PM
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If you can pull the box up enough just to see underneath, maybe try a mirror. You just need to inspect the connections. Check any engine and body grounds as well. They need to be clean and tight. Here's a technical service bulletin that might help.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 2:47 PM
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My box has 5 tabs, when I pull up. The rear of the box is saying no.
Also the connection underneath wants to come with the box, is that normal? The rear connection is staying down, loose from the box.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 2:54 PM
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Can you just unbolt the whole box? All you need is look underneath. You don't really need to pull the whole box apart. You should be able to see underneath by unbolting it from the body. In the picture also, there's your ECM.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 2:57 PM
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Does this vehicle have a battery in the back as well?
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 3:05 PM
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Yes, battery in back. I got the box out, back hidden tabs total of 7 fyi.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 3:14 PM
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I like the service bulletin.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 3:21 PM
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There's a bulk connector in back near the battery too. It's behind the trunk inside panel incase you need to check back there too. And yes that's a good service bulletin for this issue.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 3:25 PM

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