ECM replacement?

Tiny
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I see the service bulletin, how does it release from the panel?
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 3:29 PM
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So I check everything, no corrosion, put it back together, and I had 11.50vdc at 86 to positive, but coil not energized. Check in battery compartment, nothing noticeable, except both cable connection were loos, because the guy didn't get them on far enough to be tight. That was a year ago. After tighten, 86 was 9.4 vdc to positive. Put everything back closed hood, turned car around into driveway other direction, let it set for 5 or so minutes. Got in and started.
Guess what? Now A/C is cooling. This is what happens on a daily basis. OMG this is crazy!
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 4:40 PM
Tiny
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I'll bet you a dollar tomorrow morning it wont cool when I start the car. It only cools on initial start up about 1 in 30 starts. Stay tuned, lol.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 4:45 PM
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Pin 86, the control wire to the ECM has 9volts on it with the relay out? Ahh I had a thought, the reason you have 9.6 volts on pin 86 with your meter going to positive is the ECM is grounding that circuit. It's just not making a good ground which is why this problem is coming and going. You have a bad ground somewhere. The ECM is unable to fully ground the circuit, you need to check both batteries and all the grounds on the car. Or you have a corroded ground going to the engine block. Try running some jumper wires from the engine block to the frame and to the housing of the compressor. See what happens. Make sure they're good solid ground connections. Check the exhaust for any melted wires on it as well. Both sides of the engine.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 8:02 PM
Tiny
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I only have one battery, located in the trunk. Don't know about a second battery.
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Wednesday, March 17th, 2021 AT 10:54 PM
Tiny
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The ECM under the fuse box is for the lights.(Chassis ECM). This is it, in pic. Where is the real ECM?
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Thursday, March 18th, 2021 AT 6:50 AM
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This is the cts sedan rwd, correct? Can you send the VIN number please.
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Thursday, March 18th, 2021 AT 7:26 AM
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Here's a different location than All Data:
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Thursday, March 18th, 2021 AT 7:54 AM
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Sure, Premium loaded with almost everything, no backup camera.
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Thursday, March 18th, 2021 AT 7:55 AM
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Here's another picture:
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Thursday, March 18th, 2021 AT 8:06 AM
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Check behind driver side headlight. I've looked in 4 different places, for whatever reason these ECMs seem to placed in different locations depending on where the vehicle was manufactured. Did you try running some ground wires from the frame to the engine block? This would tell you if there's a bad ground between the two.
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Thursday, March 18th, 2021 AT 8:11 AM
Tiny
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What is that a picture of?
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Thursday, March 18th, 2021 AT 8:16 AM
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That's another location for the ECM, down behind the driver side headlights. Looks like he's going through the wheel well. But you should be able to see it from up top on driver side looking down.
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Thursday, March 18th, 2021 AT 8:18 AM
Tiny
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No. I didn't, I have to go to work.
Okay, I see what you are saying about location. Btw, no A/C today! Imagine that.
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Thursday, March 18th, 2021 AT 8:32 AM
Tiny
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I appreciate all your help.
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Thursday, March 18th, 2021 AT 8:34 AM
Tiny
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Don't you think if it was a engine ground problem I would have other issues?
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Thursday, March 18th, 2021 AT 8:37 AM
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That's why I've thought it may be a sensor problem.
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Thursday, March 18th, 2021 AT 8:38 AM
Tiny
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Will the A/C clutch engage will K/ON EOFF. Just wondering for my own info.
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Thursday, March 18th, 2021 AT 8:41 AM
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No it won't turn the A/C clutch on unless the cars running. There's no reason to. I think you have a bad ground really. Because of the readings you're getting. If you were on the ECM pin that grounds the relay, and on battery positive with your meter, if you think about it, you're reading positive and ground through the ECM. But with only 9.6v, that tells me something is not grounding correctly. You should be reading full battery power in that case because the ECM is giving you ground. Same way it activates the relay. I am a bit concerned about those power pins for the relay being reversed. That's very odd.
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Thursday, March 18th, 2021 AT 8:51 AM
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So I got tired of no A/C, so I stopped for 3 minutes, turned off engine, got out, when I got back in and started up, no A/C. Drove about 50 yards, stopped at sign, A/C came on. Had been driving for 25 minutes.
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Thursday, March 18th, 2021 AT 8:53 AM

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