Spark Plugs

Tiny
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Hi:
Yes, it can be done from the top, but with much difficulty. It is easier on a rack from the bottom.
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Monday, February 4th, 2019 AT 5:55 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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You mentioned replacing so many items but were they done because of the problem?

I asked if anything was done prior to it occurring as I need to understand the problem.
I also need o understand if any trouble codes are showing. If you need a fast answer, then you would need to have a person standing next to the vehicle to check and test it.

If I had been able to answer the question by just what you mentioned, then I would not need to ask for more details.

If no codes are showing and everything looks good, you would have to check the exhaust for clogging. The most common cause of exhaust clogging would be the catalytic converter.
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There is a tool made by Thexton part #419x that makes life a great deal easier. Take a look at it on Amazon. Com It helps you to move the engine forward so you can do this a great deal easier.
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Yes ive replaced all them things trying to figure out the issue. NO CODES are showing up. Ill be back if the catalyic converter is not the problem. Give me a few days and ill let you know reguardless
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Ok, keep me updated, I would like to know the cause as well.
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I took the o2 sensor off and it still has no power
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Trying to change spark plugs. Changed the front 3 with no problem, then started with back. Very little space and difficult to get to. Even find. Managed to get the middle one (i think) off and replaced, but now that the plug is screwed in secure the spark plug wrench(with rubber inside) is securely attached to the plug and won't come off.I've used a vice grip to lock on to it but not enough room to get a real strong pull on it, although i've pulled decently on it. So can't put the plug wire back on with the socket stuck on. Any suggestions? In addition, any advice that will help me succeed in changing the remaining two plugs woudl be awesome!

Thank you!
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Monday, February 4th, 2019 AT 5:55 PM (Merged)
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Theres a motor mount on the front parts of the engine that goes to the front of the car. Loosen the motormounts and hook up a ratchet strap to somethign strong and put some torque on it and roll the engien forward. This give syou alot of axcess to the rear plugs
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Monday, February 4th, 2019 AT 5:55 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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The O2 sensor and catalytic converter are 2 different thing. O2 sensor may fail and cause engine control faults but the catalytic converter can get clogged if it is faulty. You need to remove the catalytic converter to check for clogging. Test drive with it removed, though the noise would be loud as the exhaust system has been disconnected, to confirm it is not the cause.
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Monday, February 4th, 2019 AT 5:55 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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We checked the catalytic convertor when we did the o2 sensor so that isn't the problem either. Any other opinions
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Monday, February 4th, 2019 AT 5:55 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Here is a list to check. See if you had missed anything and if none works, I would suggest going over them once again to ensure nothing had been missed out or wrongly adjusted/installed during your previous repairs/checks.

LACK OF POWER OR SLUGGISH
Symptom Definition
Engine delivers less power than expected. Little or no increase in speed when accelerator is pushed down.

Possible Cause & Correction
Check following items:
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Ensure air filter and fuel filter are not plugged. Replace if necessary. Check for incorrect fuel pressure.
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Check for proper operation of thermostatic air cleaner damper door.
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Ensure initial ignition timing is properly set.
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Check for proper operation of TCC or VCC system.
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Check ESC system for excessive retard.
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Check EST system for proper operation.
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Ensure EGR valve is not open all the time.
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Check exhaust system for restrictions, such as a damaged or collapsed pipe, muffler or catalytic converter.
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Check charging system output. Repair charging system if voltage is less than 9 volts or more than 17 volts.
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Check for A/C clutch cutout at wide open throttle.
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Check MAP sensor output.
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Using Spark Tester (ST-125), check for available secondary voltage.
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Check engine valve timing and compression.
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Check ECM grounds for clean, tight connections.
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Check for a worn camshaft.
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Check for excessive fuel additives.

Check if throttle plate is opening fully when accelerator is fully deprssed.
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Monday, February 4th, 2019 AT 5:55 PM (Merged)
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Check your fuel pressure while driving( take a buddy to watch the guage) no power could easly be a faulty fuel pump.
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After replacing all spark plugs in June, replacing power brake booster in July and idle "problem" due to a sensor that needed cleaning (not a computer rebooting as the shop told me) - the engine now misfires. The shop determined it is #5 and wires and plugs all good. After an oil change too, the engine runs great when cold and then starts misfiring when hot. On the chance of a clogged fuel injector, I tried a can of "power max" fuel system cleaner but it did not solve problem.
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Monday, February 4th, 2019 AT 5:55 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Is the check engine light come on? Have you checked for weak spark and is it always the #5 cylender?
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Monday, February 4th, 2019 AT 5:56 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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The check engine light does NOT come on.

All I know is that after installing new plugs (June 3) and new power brake booster (July 15) and then 'fixing' the stalling problem by cleaning the sensor, the shop cannot determine the cause of #5 misfire. After 3 hours work they said it was not the wires, plug or vavlve. MPG has dropped from 32 to 27.6 and power max fuel system cleaner did not solve the problem.
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Did they check for an injector pulse? Compression in that cylender?
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