Engine stalls while driving?

Tiny
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1997 Chevy Cavalier Four Wheel Drive Automatic

I have a 1997 Chevy Cavalier. When driving the car for long periods (30 mins or so) it starts to shake, jerk sometimes stall, and even cuts off sometimes when I stop or slow down. I've had a coil pack replaced, radiator replaced, fuel filter (brand new) and fuel pump replaced. The transmission has been rebuilt also. The car is still doing the same thing. Sometimes it stops on me and after sitting for 10 mins or so I can restart it and slowly get to my destination. I've tried almost everything.
Thursday, April 22nd, 2010 AT 1:15 AM

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Tiny
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This sounds like the crankshaft angle sensor is going ot which is common here is a guide to help walk you through the steps with the location of the sensor for your car in the diagrams below.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/crankshaft-angle-sensor-replacement

and this guide can help as well

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-stalls

Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know what you find.
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Thursday, April 22nd, 2010 AT 2:42 PM
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My 99 cavi does almost the same thing. I"t has not cut out on me yet but I have not drove it much since she started acting up. I have replaced the spark plugs, wires, fuel filter and took off the catalytic converter. She still runs really rough and spits and sputters. While driving her she did blink out a code so I changed out the crankshaft sensor has been good ever since.
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Monday, May 3rd, 2010 AT 5:34 PM
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When I stop and start to turn the car stalls. It starts right back up. It also happens when I stop sometimes. It is quite dangerous. Any ideas? I have no error codes and took it to a mechanic who claimed it was the spark plug wires. He was doing it under a free service deal from a used car dealer however. We replaced and it stalled that day on the way home.
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Saturday, October 10th, 2020 AT 11:44 AM (Merged)
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Hi:

It could be a couple things. First, check the easy items, air filter, plugs, fuel filter. If no problems, it could be a vacuum leak. Have someone with experience help you with looking for the vac leak.

If you have any specific questions, let me know.

Joe
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Saturday, October 10th, 2020 AT 11:44 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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I had a neighbor look at it, who works at a toyota dealership as a mechanic. He told me he couldn't do anything till it actually happened. He said chevy's have notorious fuel pump issues. He said check the same things you mentioned. The plugs and wires and air filter are new.

I have a little better than basic knowledge of cars. Anything I dont know I can look up. Does the fuel pump seem likely though? It sounded like a long shot. Any opinion?

Where would I look for a vacuum leak?

About the fuel filter, I havent checked that. Is fuel filter hard to reach and replace on these cars? Ive only had it 3 months, haven't delved in too much yet.
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Saturday, October 10th, 2020 AT 11:44 AM (Merged)
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Hi:

I'm glad you got someone to help. The fuel filter should be along the frame. As far as the fuel pump, it could be going bad. The only real way to check it is when you're having trouble, the fuel pressure and volume needs to be checked. You will the tools to do it correctly. The fuel pressure may be droping. On the other hand, it could be a map sensor, a mass air flow sensor, o2 sensor. There are so many things that could cause that problem. Have the fuel pressure checked. If it's normal, we'll go from there.

Let me know what you find.

Joe
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Saturday, October 10th, 2020 AT 11:44 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Sorry I havent replied sooner. I will look into how to check the fuel pressure. THe neighbor I had helping me turned out to be no real help. But the problem has progressed. Now it stalls if you are idling and turn the air off. It will start to stall and catch itself sometime other times it just stalls. I had the alternator and battery checked because the the clock shut off when the lights turned on. The battery turned out to be bad. Ill reply when I check the fuel pressure. Does this info change anything though?
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Saturday, October 10th, 2020 AT 11:44 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hi:
When you had it scanned, was the car running ok? I'm starting to think it may be the TPS (throttle position sensor). Let me know what you find. I'm anxious to hear what you find.

Good luck,
Joe
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Saturday, October 10th, 2020 AT 11:44 AM (Merged)
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That was my original thought from looking around. Should I cause the car to stall then put the little diagnostic computer on it? Do you think it would tell me anything?

I believe the car was running fine when I put the tool on it.
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Saturday, October 10th, 2020 AT 11:44 AM (Merged)
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Hi:

The engine should be off when you scan the computer. Also, if you need a laugh, I have a Jimmy (S-15) which just started doing the same thing tonight (11:30PM). I'm 99.9% sure it's the TPS. I feel confident that is your problem too. I'll scan it tomorrow to be sure.

To answer your question, I do feel a scan tool may be helpful for you. Hopefully a code has been stored for you. If not, maybe you could get a TPS for it just to try.

JOe
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Saturday, October 10th, 2020 AT 11:44 AM (Merged)
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I have replaced the plugs fuel filter and the check engine light said the piston in the egr valve was stuck so I replaced the egr valve. Now no light but the stalling problem is still there also the light flicker when driving at night replaced the battery and had the alternater checked car checked out great even with a load it will run great and rev up without a miss fire at a idle. Im so lost now checked for a vacum leak all lines in great shape.I need any help I can get at this point.
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Saturday, October 10th, 2020 AT 11:45 AM (Merged)
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The flicker makes me think there is a ground problem. Check to make sure the main grounds from the battery are clean and tight. If they are, check compression to make sure the engine isn't wearing.
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Saturday, October 10th, 2020 AT 11:45 AM (Merged)
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Engine stalls after running car several miles and temp. Has reach normal operating temp. When you shut car off for short time and crank it to continue driving it will want to stall, you can take out of gear and raise rpm for several seconds and it clears up. Temp. Has risen to about 200 or so while shut down. When I scan computer it gives code that fuel too lean or too much air, where should I begin.
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Saturday, October 10th, 2020 AT 11:45 AM (Merged)
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If you have a lean mixture code, have you checked for vacuum leaks?
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Saturday, October 10th, 2020 AT 11:45 AM (Merged)
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I have checked for vaccum leaks and can't locate any. Is there a better method other than visual. Also wondering if it's possibly the upstream O2 sensor is bad, this code showed up along the same time the cat. Stopped up. I replaced cat. And downstream O2 sensor and erased code and it reappeared. Thanks for your suggestions and have a great day!
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Saturday, October 10th, 2020 AT 11:45 AM (Merged)
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As far as vacuum leaks, if you spray carb cleaner on and around them, the engine will rev if there is a leak. I don't like doing it because there is a risk of fire. I would also have the O2 sensor checked if you had a code.
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Saturday, October 10th, 2020 AT 11:45 AM (Merged)
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My 97 Cav has been a great running vehicle, have had very few issues over the past 11+ years we've owned it. The problem I have is that there is a medium-high pitched whine/vibration sound coming from the back of the car. It happens about 80% of the time and when the engine is going to die, the pitch of the sound increases and then stops and the car conks out about 5 seconds later. It almost always happens if I have to stop and go a few too many times, sit idling at red lights, or go thru the drive thru. It just doesn't like sitting still :). I'm not sure if the fuel pump is getting hot and stops pumping fuel or what. Most times I can let the car sit in the off position for a couple minutes and it will restart and I can head on home, sometimes it stops repeatedly and I just want to drive it into the lake.

I replaced the fuel filter at about 90-100k just to see if that was the problem and it made no difference. Anything I can try or test to see if that is the problem before I start ripping out the fuel tank and getting into this repair? I'm not the most proficient mechanic but I think I can do this repair. I have replaced my entire AC system and several simple repairs like alternator and serpentine belt in the past.
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Saturday, October 10th, 2020 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hi:
First, don't drive it into a lake. (LOL) But I do know what you mean.

It sounds like the fuel pump is bad. A way to test it is to check pressure. If the car dies when at an idle, view the "How To" video and check it in your drive way. My guess is you will have pressure then it will drop.

Here is the video:

https://www.2carpros.com/dia/test_fuel_pressure.htm

If you need the gauge, many parts stores will rent it. If you can't find one, they sell them at the "Test Equipment Store" site on this page. Also, the pressure should be between 41 and 47PSI

Let me know what you find.

Joe
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Saturday, October 10th, 2020 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
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Ok I watched the video and it made perfect sense to check the pressure first. However, I searched and searched and can't locate any place to connect a pressure tester on the fuel rail. I poked around on the internet and asked in a Cavalier forum and it appears that you can remove the fuel filter and connect the tester inline? I remember that when I replaced the filter I had a really hard time getting it off and back on again. Do you think it is a better use of my time and money to just purchase a new filter and pump and install them both at the same time? I know replacing the pump is going to be the harder of the 2 tasks but I think the fuel filter might have to be taken out in the process of dropping the fuel tank anyway?

Thanks for your time in reviewing my questions!
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Saturday, October 10th, 2020 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Because of the cost of the pump, I would recommend identifying that it is bad first. I know it has to be near 200 dollars. And, the tank can be a pain, so if we can avoid that, I would recommend it. And yes, you can check the pressure as you mentioned.
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