Engine will not turn over?

Tiny
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I checked the fuel pressure again with a gauge that measures high enough and find the pressure to be about 57 PSI.
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Tiny
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Are you sure about that? You have a 12 volt system so that is something that you need to get to the bottom of. Check it again and if you really only have 6 volts, then unplug all of the injectors and measure it again. If it comes up to 12v now, leave the meter attached and start plugging in injectors one at a time. If the voltage suddenly drops again, that injector is shorted out.
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Thursday, August 6th, 2020 AT 9:35 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Yes, I originally checked with all connectors disconnected, but I just did it again to confirm and yes with the key in the on/run position all connectors have 6.01 VDC - 6.05 VDC present.
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Having a prob with my 1998 lesabre. I noticed a few days ago that it seemed to crank a bit longer and it seemed that the battery seemed a bit weaker. Also when the engine cranked I noticed teh speedometer needle moved up past 70 mph while the engine cranked. But the car started until last night. As the day went on yesterday it labored to start until it just would not even crank over. I pulled the battery and took it into a shop to have it tested and it came back good. My question now is where do I go from here? I cleaned the battery cables with a wire brush and they seemed clean. When I reinstalled the battery all the dash lights and windows and eveything seemed ok but when I turned the key not a peep from under the hood not even the selenoid made noise? Any help wouod be appreciated thank you
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Thursday, August 6th, 2020 AT 9:35 AM (Merged)
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Check voltage at starter batt treminal should be same as batt. Next check voltage at solenoid terminal while key is turned to start. If both good then replace starter
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Thursday, August 6th, 2020 AT 9:35 AM (Merged)
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Check the voltage on both sides at INJECTOR fuse #7, 10amp in the dash fuse box.
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Thursday, August 6th, 2020 AT 9:35 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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There are 2 - #7 fuses in my dash box; 1 is 7D which is labeled '10A TCC' and the other is 7E labeled '10A NON-OBDII MISC ENGINE' (no fuses in 7A - 7C).

I measured 12 volts on both sides of both fuses.

Oh, thank you by the way.
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I think your in the wrong box
It's right here


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/561653_Fuse_box_98_Lesabre_1.jpg

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Thursday, August 6th, 2020 AT 9:35 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Man, they could have made that fuse box harder to find.

I measured 12 VDC on both sides.
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Checked the connections and it has spark.
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Thursday, August 6th, 2020 AT 9:35 AM (Merged)
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The injector power goes directly from there to the injectors so you need to find the connector or whatever is causing you to lose that power between that fuse and the injector.
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Do you hear the fuel pump come On when you turn key on? If not check fuel pump fuse and fuel pump relay if so, check the fuel pressure to rule out the fuel filter/fuel pump/pressure regulator and listen to the injector/s are they pulsing or hook up a noid light.
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Thursday, August 6th, 2020 AT 9:35 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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I originally measured 6VDC across the injector connectors. When I measure the hot wire on the connector to GND I get 12 volts.

Does this indicate an issue with the PCM? What voltage level would I expect to see across the connector?
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Thursday, August 6th, 2020 AT 9:35 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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No, it just means you just wasted a bunch of time because you didn't know how to measure it. That line back to the computer is nothing but an open circuit to the quad drivers and your real lucky you didn't jump them together or you could have taken out the computer. Your back to square one which is where we should have started.

Here is the procedure. Do every single test.

All "crank, no start" conditions are approached in the same way. Every engine requires certain functions to be able to run. Some of these functions rely on specific components to work and some components are part of more than one function so it is important to see the whole picture to be able to conclude anything about what may have failed. Also, these functions can ONLY be tested during the failure. Any other time and they will simply test good because the problem isn't present at the moment.
If you approach this in any other way, you are merely guessing and that only serves to replace unnecessary parts and wastes money.

Every engine requires spark, fuel and compression to run. That's what we have to look for.

These are the basics that need to be tested and will give us the info required to isolate a cause.

1) Test for spark at the plug end of the wire using a spark tester. If none found, check for power supply on the + terminal of the coil with the key on.

2) Test for injector pulse using a small bulb called a noid light. If none found, check for power supply at one side of the injector with the key on.

3) Use a fuel pressure gauge to test for correct fuel pressure, also noticing if the pressure holds when key is shut off.

4) If all of these things check good, then you would need to do a complete compression test.
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Thursday, August 6th, 2020 AT 9:35 AM (Merged)
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Engine Mechanical problem
1998 Buick Lesabre 6 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic

If it has run out of fuel. I put some fuel in it and it will still not start. Is the fuel line at the top of the fuel tank and is that why it is not geeting fuel. Check the port on the engine and nothing came out of it. Need to know what is wrong with this vehicle
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Thursday, August 6th, 2020 AT 9:35 AM (Merged)
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In tank fuel pumps are cooled and lubricated by the fuel in the tank. When you run a car

out of gas or very low, it pumps a lot of air through the pump which overheats it and causes

some severe wear and many times, failure when they cool off.
You will need to use a fuel pressure gauge to verify this
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Electrical problem
1998 6 cyl

car will not start I think it maybe security system can jump across starter will start but it dies right away
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Thursday, August 6th, 2020 AT 9:36 AM (Merged)
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Can you please reword that! Hneed vehicle model, make etc.
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I dont no wats wrong wiht my car it is a 98 buick lesabre costom the battery is good but wont start and autozone said its the starer or a solenod but i dont no for sure


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Hi:
What happens when you turn the key? Do you hear a click?

Joe
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