How to reset the A/C compressor?

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FACTORYJACK
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Not to stick my nose in this business, but I have been reading this and have some input. It sounds like the vehicle was brought in with a drive plate sheared, and compressor seized. There should have been some noise, smell, degraded performance leading up to this. It is not customary to assume there was a leak since the system was still trying to operate. To add to system dynamics, you can have a leak under pressure, and not under vacuum, or vice versa. Think of a connection or o-ring, as it is pulled down it is pulled together and may not lose vacuum, when under positive pressure it spreads and leaks. A leak test can cover both vacuum and pressure. Have you identified where this leak is, the evaporator is on the passenger(right) side firewall where the large line, and small line enter a case. If you had a evaporator leak, it would more than likely expell into the passenger compartment. My guess, if it leaked after the repair, the shop kinked a line, left a connection loose, used wrong o-ring seals, or somehow the condenser got punctured. There is nothing on the right side, other than the high side line to the condenser. Two connections, one at the orifice tube, and one at the condenser. Was there metal in the system? The reason I ask, is sometimes shops opt to put a filter in the line. This filter is placed in that line in a location that is at the technicians discretion. The line is cut, and the filter is attached with compression fittings. If you had a pop/hiss/vapor, you should also have oil to show where the leak is. It sounds like the shop don't want to admit, or assumes, it did nothing wrong. That is my two cents, if I stepped on any toes, let me know.
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 7:00 PM (Merged)
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Gstacey - you seem to have a much better handle on what my situation is than buddycraig. You have any idea why hiss/pop/vapor would occur on driver side of engine shortly after starting up car morning after I brought it home? Seemed pretty strange to me - that and the fact that when I came home there was a large bolt on the drive where the car had been sitting - obviously a part the shop did not install but left loose and it fell out when I drove off!
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SHERON1981
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What kind of level ride compressor is on a 1997 cadillac deville? I can't find anything on it and I took it to the shop and they told me that my compressor lines were damaged when they checked my level ride. Please help.
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 7:00 PM (Merged)
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The compressor is in the right front of the car behind the bumper, scan your codes first, off and warmer on the heater controls at the same time, with your key in the on position

does your rear end stick all the way up in the air or whats your trouble a rough ride? Scan your codes!
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 7:00 PM (Merged)
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Without being able to physically inspect the vehicle myself, I would suspect that some part of the job was done incorrectly and/or poorly. Like I said in my most recent post, there is nothing but a high side line running on the left(drivers) side of the engine. Have you inspected it for a damaged line and/or signs of oil. If the refrigerant leaked, it carries the system oil with it, that was the vapor that was seen. If the shop just replaced the compressor, nothing should have been touched in that region. As I said also, did they install a filter in the line? This is often installed after catastrophic compressor failure, in attempt to prevent any rogue metal particles from reaching the replacement compressor, the line is cut and filter installed using compression fittings. It sounded to me all along, that the initial diagnosis and repairs were done accordingly, but that something went wrong. They told you it needed an evaporator, usually those don't pop, they slowly leak, and how did they come to that conclusion. There is a pressure relief valve on the back of the compressor, it lets off at pressures of approximately 525psi to prevent system damage. If the shop is saying that it is not their fault, and something else failed, have them show you where it is leaking. Otherwise, have a second opinion.
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 7:00 PM (Merged)
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ETHANHAWK_2008
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The a/c compressor cycles when I have the heater on. I t does not cycle when the desired temp is low. Does the high side thermistor have anything to do with cooling fan operation?
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 7:00 PM (Merged)
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It should not cycle at all when ambient temp is below 40F. It will cycle when in defrost, and/or when in 'auto' and the temp is above 40. The high side temp sensor does have some affect on cooling fan operation. Higher than normal high side temp may indicate reduced airflow across the condenser, say when idling in traffic and the weather is warm. They would come on high in an effort to increase flow across the condenser.
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 7:00 PM (Merged)
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[quote:6ce2362b76="bdc"]Air Conditioning problem
1997 Cadillac Deville V8 Front Wheel Drive Manual 93000 miles

scan for codes, push off and warmmer, at the same time, if it has codes it wont work, so hes not telling the truth if it has codes, because system wont power up
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 7:00 PM (Merged)
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Thank you where can I find the code numbers and answers. Thanks brett
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 7:00 PM (Merged)
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Thank you very much I did what you said and this is what came up.
Pcm 1139 current,
i pc b 1552history,
ipc u 1255 history
, acm b1310 history,
acm b1347current,
tcs c1255 history,
pzm b1552 history,
pzm b 1558 history,
ipc b1771 history.
Do you knowwhat this means. Thank you very much. Brett
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 7:00 PM (Merged)
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BUZZSAW
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The current codes acm b1347 is an ac code low refridgerant you still have a leak, will have to get my caddy book out for the pcm 1139, will get back with you
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 7:00 PM (Merged)
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SKH1955
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I only drive this car about once per month. I put a new compressor in about 2 years ago. After the car sits several weeks and you turn the A/C on it makes a grinding grunting noise and then works fine. If I drive this car ever few days this does not occur, it is just if it sits up for a few weeks. Any sugestions would be appreciated.
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Friday, July 17th, 2020 AT 11:57 AM (Merged)
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It is possible that oil is settling in the compressor, and the noise your getting is described as slugging. The compressor is processing liquid, which don't compress. In theory, it could be detrimental to the component, have never seen a failed compressor because of it.
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Friday, July 17th, 2020 AT 11:57 AM (Merged)
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Thank you very much for your reply. I had one other person tell me this, but in all the years I have had cars that have set up for several weeks this has never happened before.
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Friday, July 17th, 2020 AT 11:57 AM (Merged)
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It is possible that when you had the compressor replaced, the oil that was added to it created too much in the system. Since you don't have any idea how much oil is in the system to begin with, and adding oil to a component is required at replacement, it is easy to have too much. If you were to have something done about it, a simple evac and recharge may resolve it.
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Friday, July 17th, 2020 AT 11:57 AM (Merged)
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I had that done yesterday. I hope that cures the problem. Thanks for your help and quick reply.
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Friday, July 17th, 2020 AT 11:57 AM (Merged)
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The evacuation and re charge did not cure the problem. Any more ideas. This is about to drive me crazy. I am so anal about my cars.
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Friday, July 17th, 2020 AT 11:57 AM (Merged)
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Not really sure at this point, without hearing the noise I can only guess that that is what is occurring. To remove and drain each component in order to get an idea how much oil is in there would be costly, Do you feel it is enough of a concern to warrant spending the money on?
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Friday, July 17th, 2020 AT 11:57 AM (Merged)
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No, not at this point. I drove the car to my mechanic this a.M. And did not turn the A/C on until I reached the garage. It made a little noise, but not like it has been doing. He thinks the noise is coming from the compressor and advises me to drive it on. I think what I will do is drive a few miles before turning on the A/C as he said it might give the oil time to heat up. Thanks for all of your help.
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Friday, July 17th, 2020 AT 11:57 AM (Merged)
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The dash control for AC will not go in "Auto" mode. When it is pushed it goes back to "economy" mode. Know for sure the 10 amp fuse is good and AC relay is good. There is no voltage at the compressor. How do you fix this?
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