Camshaft timing

Tiny
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Hello -

Yes you are correct. For any of the Protà ©gà © models, DX, ES or the LX each are to have the timing belts changed every 60,000 miles. So for this vehicle it should have been changed twice.

If you do choose to purchase it you need to change it. If a timing belt goes out it is possible to permanently damage your engine.
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Yes I would change it now Mazda recomends belt every 60K miles. I find it amazing it has not poped you must be a lucky person. I'd but a Lotto ticket.
Hope this helps
Thanks for donate
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Tiny
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I did not buy it yet but would like to buy it so this will be my first immediate repair.
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hello -

Sounds good.

You might also check on the below recalls for the vehicle too. The dealer may fix these for free. Please contact the dealer service department, give them the VIN number of your car and have them check on these to see if they apply to you.


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/248015_Mazda_1.jpg



Good luck on your purchase.
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
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1996 Mazda Protege 4 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic

Hi, I'm trying to find the timing marks for this 1.5l DOHC engine.
Should I be using the Z mark/2 notches or the I and E letters on each camshaft sprocket?

I have aligned the crankshaft to the oil pan marking. Now I have to figure out which cam markings to use.

In the Haynes manual as with others it is not clear.

Thanks,

Lee
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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See below-Good Luck


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/12900_tm_1.jpg

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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hi. Thanks for getting back to me. I have a twin cam arrangement so how does one align the markings. Match the I and E's or use the notches on the sprockets or a combination of both?

The markings are like the haynes book arrangement. I have tried the 1.8 DOHC and the engine almost ran. But was very rough. So those markings seem close.

Hope to hear from you,

Thanks,

Lee
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hi. Thanks for getting back to me. I have a twin cam arrangement so how does one align the markings. Match the I and E's or use the notches on the sprockets or a combination of both?

The markings are like the haynes book arrangement. I have tried the 1.8 DOHC and the engine almost ran. But was very rough. So those markings seem close.

Hope to hear from you,

Thanks,

Lee[/quote:74412a63f1]

Well I managed to figure it out. Seems if your using the Haynes manual and use figure 7.41e which is the 1.6l DOHC arrangement the markings will work with the 1.5l variant also. I added an extra tooth position below the markings on both sprockets to block markings. Left the tension spring bolt slightly loose and cranked the engine.

After a little reluctance the engine started and ran.

So TDC on the crankshaft and distributor to #1 sparkplug, then do the cams to block markings and things will work.

Thanks for getting back to me. Tho I don't have a single or chain cam arrangement.

Lee
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
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My '98 Mazda Protege is up on 90,000 miles and I am going to get the timing belt replaced, can anyone tell me if the cam, crank and waterpump need to be replaced since they are in the same area? I am getting conflicting reports. What are the cam and crank for anyway?
Also, I have never had any scheduled mainteance done on this car (and she's been so good to me), what have I overlooked that really needs to be done?
Thanks!
Liz
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:26 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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As with any timing belt replacement repair you should always replace the waterpump. The crank and cam need not be changed but I am sure your friends are referring to the seals. They have a tendency to start leaking at any time so now is the time to replace them.
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:26 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Another common thing over looked at this time is also to replace the rocker cover gasket. You have to remove the rocker cover to do a timing belt on the protege engine. So why not replace the seal at the same time. There should be NO extra time charged for this.

And yes for sure the water-pump is good practice to be replaced with the timing belt. It only takes another.5-1.0 hour of labor to do it while the timing belt is removed.

Cosmo. Mazda TEch
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:26 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hi, In order to replace the head gasket of my car I had to remove the camshafts.

When reinstalling the cams and cam sprockets
how do I ensure I set up the timing right?

I also had to replace the Harmonic Balancer pulley as it was wobbling before I removed it.

This car has never been worked on before.

My worry is reinstalling the cam sprockets and cams in the right sequence. (I am so determined to get this right amidst my initial carelessness)

I marked the timing belt(which I am also replacing) and the cam sprockets before removing them but they were not exactly at TDS. I just marked them where they were and took some pictures.

Isn't there a specific level at which specific pistons should be?

Would it help to manually turn the crankshaft now while the head is off to help ensure I am resetting the timing right?

Attached is a picture of where my pistons are right now.

I am waiting for a Haynes manual to arrive before proceeding but it sure would help to be enlightened a bit to help ensure I follow the instructions properly!

I am no mechanic yet but because I have time and have come this far I am having fun figuring this out. I have learned what seems to me to be a lot having made it this far. I enjoy the DIY experience.

Thanks for reading this :)
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Saturday, June 29th, 2019 AT 4:15 PM (Merged)
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Hello,

The engine must be on TDC before you begin reassembly. Here are the camshaft timing belt marks which will show you how the camshafts need to be. Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know if you need anything else to get the problem fixed.
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Saturday, June 29th, 2019 AT 4:15 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hey Ken! Thank you for the help you have given me. I truly appreciate it!

God Bless. :)
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Saturday, June 29th, 2019 AT 4:15 PM (Merged)
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Good to hear, please use 2CarPros anytime we are here to help.
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I was running on the Highway when my car turn off, well after I tow it to my house I figure out it was the timing belt, my question is when I replace the timing could something else broke down since the timing belt broke is there anything I should check before replacing the timing belt?
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Tiny
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You may have bent the valves since the belt broke. It would require removing the head and replacing all the valves.

After you set the belt, do a compression test to verify

Roy
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Where is the timing belt supposed to line up at #1 top dead center
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Saturday, June 29th, 2019 AT 4:15 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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This is for single oH cam SOHC
Top pic is cam bottom is crank


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/62217_Timinga_1.jpg



https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/62217_Timingb_2.jpg

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Tiny
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I can't figure out the bottom marks from the poly the poly has 1 mark and the other thing that is on the side has like a T and a 10 and a lot of small marks.
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