Camshaft timing

Here is a guide and the diagrams below so you can see how the job is done.

https://www.2carpros.com/diagrams/mazda/protege/1999

Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know if you need anything else to get the problem fixed. Cheers

If I replaced my timing belt/chain and all the other belts at 70,000 miles, should it have snapped at 85,000 miles?

No...either the previous repairs were not made properly or one of the components ran by the belt may have been worn and caused belt(s) to fail.




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Where are the timing marks and how should I line up the timing marks on a 1999 mazda Protege 1.6 Liter? Thank You.

Are you taking about valve timing or ignition timing??

I am trying to find a reasonable cost for replacing the timing belt on this car. The price ranges that i have been given are very wide. Could you please tell me what the cost of the timing belt is and the number of labor hours required to change the timing belt?
Thanks

Hi Fred,

Thank you for the donation.

For 1.6 L and 2.0 L the prices are different. What is your engine capacity?

Labor time is from 2.4 hours to slightly over 3 hours depending on model and if oil seals were to be replaced.

Prices quoted are as OEM listed and might not be accurated depending on location. You have to check out locally.

Timing belt = $ 50.13 - $ 56.21
Tensioner = $ 83.61 - $ 164.23

Hi
Thanks for your reply. My car has a 2.0L engine. I am assuming that a tensioner is needed only if i was changing the timing belt myself. If a mechanic is performing the replacement does he still need to get a new tensioner?
Also is it recommended to change the water pump at the same time when the belts are changed?

Thanks again

[quote:de79cecf9c="KHLow2008"]Hi Fred,

Thank you for the donation.

For 1.6 L and 2.0 L the prices are different. What is your engine capacity?

Labor time is from 2.4 hours to slightly over 3 hours depending on model and if oil seals were to be replaced.

Prices quoted are as OEM listed and might not be accurated depending on location. You have to check out locally.

Timing belt = $ 50.13 - $ 56.21
Tensioner = $ 83.61 - $ 164.23[/quote:de79cecf9c]

The tensioner is recommended to be replaced as an assy with the timing belt no matter who is doing the job.

I would recommend the water pump replacement as well. Replacement involves removal of timing belts and I have seen many cases of water pump replacement required within a few thousand miles after timing belt was replaced.

For the 2.0L, the tensioner is more expensive at $164.23.
The belt is cheaper though.

Drive Train Axles Bearings problem
1998 Mazda Protege 4 cyl Front Wheel Drive 117000 miles

As much as I love my protege ES 1.8, according to the book it is soon due for a second timing belt change; changed at 58k. Expensive and probably not worth considering. Mechanic inspected and says it doesn't look bad. In a couple of states it asks only for an insection at 60k and a change much later. Any reason for the difference and if it looks okay is there a reasonable chance of it going more than 6ok on this second belt?
Thank you

Hi alanabley,

Thank you for the donation.

Here is what I got from our database. Why the difference is anybody's guess. Since it has been recommended to be replaced at a later mileage for the same vehicle, there definitely is a reasonable chance for it to last longer than the recommended mileage.

As the visual inspection indicates the belt is still in good condition, I would agree that it is possible to use it for a longer period.

MANUFACTURER'S SUGGESTED SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE
For 1994-96 vehicles, the manufacturer recommends the belt be replaced at 60,000 mile intervals for vehicles sold outside of California. For vehicles sold in California, inspect timing belt at 60,000 and 90,000 miles, and replace timing belt at 105,000 miles.

For 1997-98 vehicles, the manufacturer recommends the belt be replaced at 60,000 mile intervals for vehicles sold outside of California and Massachusetts. For vehicles sold in California and Massachusetts, inspect timing belt at 60,000 and 90,000 miles, and replace timing belt at 105,000 miles.

For 1999-00 vehicles, the replacement interval is 60,000 miles except for vehicles registered in California, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia and Washington D.C. For these states, inspect timing belt at 60,000 and 90,000 miles, and replace timing belt at 105,000 miles.

For 2001-05 MX-5 Miata, the replacement interval is 60,000 miles.

© 2008 Mitchell Repair Information Co., LLC.

I would like to change my timing belt on a mazda 2001 protege 2.0 L.
Can you explain me and show me how with diagrams ??
Thank you very much

TIMING BELT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION [FS]

1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
2. Remove the CMP sensor and CKP sensor.
3. Remove the ignition coils.
4. Remove the spark plug.

5. Remove in the order indicated in the image above.
6. Install in the reverse order of removal.
7. Inspect the air gap. Refer to Powertrain Management; Computers and Control Systems; Crankshaft Position Sensor.
8. Adjust the drive belt deflection/tension.
9. Start the engine and:

1. Inspect the pulleys and drive belt for runout and contact.
2. Inspect the ignition timing.

Crankshaft Pulley Removal Note

1. Remove the crankshaft using the SST.

Cylinder Head Cover Removal Note


1. Remove the cylinder head cover bolts a few turns in the order shown.

No.3 Engine Mount Rubber Removal Note


1. Suspend the engine using the SST.

Timing Belt Removal Note


1. Install the pulley lock bolt.
2. Turn the crankshaft clockwise and align the timing marks.


3. Turn the tensioner clockwise using an Allen wrench.
4. Disconnect the tensioner spring from the hook pin.

Caution: Forcefully twisting the timing belt turning it inside out, or allowing oil or grease on it will damage the belt and shorten its life.

Note: Mark the timing belt rotation on the belt for proper reinstallation.

Tensioner, Tensioner Spring Installation Note

1. Measure the tensioner spring free length.

o If not within the specification, replace the tensioner spring. Free length 36.6 mm (1.44 inch)

2. Install the tensioner.

3. Rotate the tensioner. If tensioner rotates with no resistance or does not rotate, replace the tensioner.

Timing Belt Installation Note

1. Verify that the timing belt pulley mark and camshaft pulley marks are aligned with the timing marks as shown.

2. Install the timing belt so that there is no looseness at the idler side.

3. Turn the crankshaft clockwise twice, and align the timing marks.
4. Verify that all timing marks are correctly aligned.

o If not aligned, remove the timing belt and repeat from Step 1.

Caution: Be sure not to apply tension other than that of the tensioner spring.

5. Turn the tensioner clockwise using an Allen wrench.

6. Connect the tensioner to the hook pin.


7. Turn the crankshaft clockwise twice, and verify that all timing marks are aligned.

o If not aligned, repeat from Step 1.

Cylinder Head Cover Installation Note

1. Verify that the grooves on the cylinder head cover are free of oil, water and other foreign material.
2. Install the cylinder head cover gasket into the cylinder head cover.
3. Apply silicone sealant to the cylinder head as shown.

4. Tighten the cylinder head cover bolts a few turns in the order shown.

Crankshaft Pulley Installation Note

1. Install the crankshaft using the SST.

Water Pump Pulley Installation Note


1. Install the water pump pulley by facing the "F" marks outward.

Thank you very much. WOuld you have more pictures, like the step of how to do. Sorry i speak french, maybe my writing is not perfect

Unfortunately, there's way too many pics to up load for this procedure. Also, the service I use doesn't like it when we give their illustrations away for free.

But there are other techs on here that may have access to other illustrations. so hopefully they'll help.

I also suggest you purchase a repair manual, such as "Hanes" or "Chiltons". There's also online manuals such as AllData and Mitchell 1. They only cost about 25 bucks and they'll help you with this procedure and anything in the future as well.

If you need further advise, don't hesitate to ask.

OK. THank you again. Have a great day Ernest

No problem.

1998 Mazda Protege Two Wheel Drive Manual 128K miles

follow up question on the 1998 Mazda protege with 128K. So since the timing belt has never been changed on this car (that I may be buying), is it possible that it may have damaged the engine already somehow? I plan on changing it right away but can there be hidden damaged due to the fact that it was never changed? Also what is the cost on average of this repair?

Hi there,
Thank you for the donation,

There will be no problem associated with the timing belt if it is still running, but get it changed ASAP, as for cost i will have to check that out and post this a bit later.

mark (mhpautos)

1998 Mazda Protege Two Wheel Drive Manual 128K miles

planning on buying a 1998 mazda protege with 128,000 and timing belt has never been changed. Their mechanic said nothing about it during services. Isn't it way past its time to be changed? Should I expect to change it right away?

Hello –

Yes you are correct. For any of the Protégé models, DX, ES or the LX each are to have the timing belts changed every 60,000 miles. So for this vehicle it should have been changed twice.

If you do choose to purchase it you need to change it. If a timing belt goes out it is possible to permanently damage your engine.

Yes I would change it now Mazda recomends belt every 60K miles. I find it amazing it has not poped you must be a lucky person. I'd but a Lotto ticket.
Hope this helps
Thanks for donate

I did not buy it yet but would like to buy it so this will be my first immediate repair.

Hello - Sounds good. You might also check on the below recalls for the vehicle too. The dealer may fix these for free. Please contact the dealer service department, give them the VIN number of your car and have them check on these to see if they apply to you.

Good luck on your purchase.

Engine Mechanical problem
1996 Mazda Protege 4 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic

Hi, I'm trying to find the timing marks for this 1.5l DOHC engine.
Should I be using the Z mark/2 notches or the I and E letters on each camshaft sprocket?

I have aligned the crankshaft to the oil pan marking...now i have to figure out which cam markings to use.

In the Haynes manual as with others it is not clear...

Thanks,

Lee

See below-Good Luck

Hi. thanks for getting back to me. I have a twin cam arrangement so how does one align the markings...match the I and E's or use the notches on the sprockets or a combination of both..? The markings are like the haynes book arrangement.. i have tried the 1.8 DOHC and the engine almost ran...but was very rough..so those markings seem close... Hope to hear from you, Thanks, Lee

Hi. thanks for getting back to me. I have a twin cam arrangement so how does one align the markings...match the I and E's or use the notches on the sprockets or a combination of both..? The markings are like the haynes book arrangement.. i have tried the 1.8 DOHC and the engine almost ran...but was very rough..so those markings seem close... Hope to hear from you, Thanks, Lee[/quote:74412a63f1] Well I managed to figure it out. Seems if your using the Haynes manual and use figure 7.41e which is the 1.6l DOHC arrangement the markings will work with the 1.5l variant also. I added an extra tooth position below the markings on both sprockets to block markings. Left the tension spring bolt slightly loose and cranked the engine. After a little reluctance the engine started and ran. So TDC on the crankshaft and distributor to #1 sparkplug, then do the cams to block markings and things will work. Thanks for getting back to me...tho I don't have a single or chain cam arrangement. Lee

My '98 Mazda Protege is up on 90,000 miles and I am going to get the timing belt replaced, can anyone tell me if the cam, crank and waterpump need to be replaced since they are in the same area? I am getting conflicting reports. What are the cam and crank for anyway?
Also, I have never had any scheduled mainteance done on this car (and she's been so good to me), what have I overlooked that really needs to be done?
Thanks!
Liz

As with any timing belt replacement repair you should always replace the waterpump. The crank and cam need not be changed but I am sure your friends are referring to the seals. They have a tendency to start leaking at any time so now is the time to replace them.

Another common thing over looked at this time is also to replace the rocker cover gasket. You have to remove the rocker cover to do a timing belt on the protege engine....so why not replace the seal at the same time....there should be NO extra time charged for this.

And yes for sure the water-pump is good practice to be replaced with the timing belt. It only takes another .5-1.0 hour of labor to do it while the timing belt is removed.

Cosmo...Mazda TEch

Hi, In order to replace the head gasket of my car i had to remove the camshafts.

When reinstalling the cams and cam sprockets
how do i ensure i set up the timing right?

I also had to replace the Harmonic Balancer pulley as it was wobbling before i removed it.

This car has never been worked on before.

My worry is reinstalling the cam sprockets and cams in the right sequence. (i am so determined to get this right amidst my initial carelessness)

I marked the timing belt(which i am also replacing) and the cam sprockets before removing them but they were not exactly at TDS. I just marked them where they were and took some pictures.

Isn't there a specific level at which specific pistons should be?

Would it help to manually turn the crankshaft now while the head is off to help ensure i am resetting the timing right?

attached is a picture of where my pistons are right now.

i am waiting for a Haynes manual to arrive before proceeding but it sure would help to be enlightened a bit to help ensure i follow the instructions properly!

I am no mechanic yet but because i have time and have come this far i am having fun figuring this out. I have learned what seems to me to be a lot having made it this far. I enjoy the DIY experience.

Thanks for reading this :)

Hello,

The engine must be on TDC before you begin reassembly. Here are the camshaft timing belt marks which will show you how the camshafts need to be. Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know if you need anything else to get the problem fixed.

Hey Ken! Thank you for the help you have given me. I truly appreciate it!

God Bless. :)

Good to hear, please use 2CarPros anytime we are here to help.

I was running on the Highway when my car turn off, well after I tow it to my house I figure out it was the timing belt, my question is when I replace the timing could something else broke down since the timing belt broke is there anything I should check before replacing the timing belt?

you may have bent the valves since the belt broke. it would require removing the head and replacing all the valves.

after you set the belt, do a compression test to verify

Roy

where is the timing belt supposed to line up at #1 top dead center

This is for single oH cam SOHC Top pic is cam bottom is crank

I can't figure out the bottom marks from the poly the poly has 1 mark and the other thing that is on the side has like a T and a 10 and a lot of small marks.