1997 Chevrolet Monte Carlo wont start

Tiny
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  • 1997 CHEVROLET MONTE CARLO
  • 3.1L
  • 6 CYL
  • FWD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 130,000 MILES
I was driving down the road and my car shut off. I have put new spark plugs and starter, coil pack, crank shaft sensor in it and it still will not start. Its getting fuel, fuel injectors and fuel pump good can someone tell me what else to do
Wednesday, September 10th, 2014 AT 4:05 PM

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Tiny
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You should probably have this professionally diagnosed before you waste any more money on it. You know all the spark plugs didn't fail at the same time, so while they might be ready to be replaced, that won't cause stalling. The starter has nothing to do with the engine running or stalling.

Loss of just spark is the least common cause of stalling but it sounds like that's what you have. The second would be loss of just fuel. That's almost always caused by a bad fuel pump. By far the most common cause is loss of fuel AND spark due to a common cause. If you're sure you're getting fuel, (you can smell it at the tail pipe), the place to start is by reading the diagnostic fault codes. Many auto parts stores will do that for you for free.

Some GM engines will stall if a signal goes missing from the crankshaft position sensor or the camshaft position sensor. Some will stay running if one of those sensors fails, but once stopped, the engine may not restart. Fault codes related to those sensors don't always set right away so you may need a scanner to view live data and see if a signal is missing.

Most of the time when there's no fault code and you're missing spark OR fuel, it's due to something not monitored by the Engine Computer. That typically means the fuel pump for no fuel, and the ignition module for no spark.
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Wednesday, September 10th, 2014 AT 4:30 PM
Tiny
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We disconnected the battery so now we cant get no codes when we try to start it it back fires do u thank it could be the timing chain
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Wednesday, September 10th, 2014 AT 4:53 PM
Tiny
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Timing chain isn't something I hear much about.

Very often a code won't set right away for the cam or crank sensors, and when they do, you often won't get a Check Engine light. That's because the light must turn on when any code sets related to something that could adversely affect emissions. You can't have excessive emissions if the engine doesn't run. So when you disconnected the battery, it would erase any codes, but there may not have been any codes to start with. Either way, you need a scanner to see what's taking place. The alternative is to throw random parts at the problem, and we hate doing that. It is the most expensive way to diagnose something, and it introduces too many new variables into the problem.

If you can't get the car to a scanner, check at the auto parts stores that rent or borrow tools to see if they have a scanner you can borrow. You don't want the simple code readers they use on customers' cars. Those don't display data or let you talk back to the computers and make them do things. Scanners give you that capability.
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Wednesday, September 10th, 2014 AT 5:04 PM
Tiny
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Ok thank you I will try that
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Wednesday, September 10th, 2014 AT 5:08 PM

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