Transmission not shifting to last gear

Tiny
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Hello, good evening. The transmission is shifting well but it won't shift to the last gear. When the vehicle is moving at certain speed and brake is applied, someone will feel a sudden jerk as if a vehicle hit it from behind. I scanned the vehicle the only code that is found on its memory is P0500 (vehicle speed sensor A). I have replaced the sensor, the problem still persists.
Could it has caused by solenoid or problem in the transmission?
Saturday, October 30th, 2021 AT 3:28 PM

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Tiny
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This is most likely a speed sensor but if this code continues then we need to run through the testing that I am attaching below.

This code is going to cause shifting issues and it sounds like the ECM is causing a down shift/jerking or a failure to engage the torque converter for overdrive.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-voltmeter

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/abs-wheel-speed-sensor-test

The only thing we can do at this point is run through this testing and make sure we fix this code before we move onto a solenoid or torque converter issue.
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Sunday, October 31st, 2021 AT 4:48 PM
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Thank you sir, let me go through them.
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Sunday, October 31st, 2021 AT 7:36 PM
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Sounds good. Let us know how it turns out. Thanks for the update.
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Monday, November 1st, 2021 AT 6:12 AM
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The article is better compared to the previous ones, kudos.
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Tuesday, November 2nd, 2021 AT 8:32 PM
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Good morning, Sir,
the vehicle speed sensor. Is it the one at the wheel (abs) or at the transmission?
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Tuesday, November 2nd, 2021 AT 8:39 PM
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Great question. They did not do a good job with remaining clear on this, as most all vehicles have a single sensor called a vehicle speed sensor. However, this is not talking about this single sensor (if equipped on this vehicle which I don't think it is). What they are saying is the vehicle speed signal is coming from the ABS module after it takes the 4-wheel speed signals and gets an average which will be the vehicle speed signal.

Take a look at the first attachment below where the ABS/Skid control is getting 4 arrows pointing to it from the "speed sensors, " these are the four-wheel speed signals which gets turned into a single signal which is the vehicle speed signal.
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Wednesday, November 3rd, 2021 AT 7:22 AM
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Thank you, sir,
The four pulse signal, does it mean that each of the signal from the sensor on the wheel represent a pulse?
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Friday, November 5th, 2021 AT 12:01 AM
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From the Images sent earlier, referencing the first one, on the hint at point 3, does it mean that if a sensor is short or has issue with its circuit, will affect the entire performance of the combination meter (speedometer), ECU or the entire performance of the vehicle?
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Friday, November 5th, 2021 AT 12:36 AM
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What could be used to check the pulse signal?
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Friday, November 5th, 2021 AT 1:49 AM
Tiny
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Good afternoon, sir, I was reading one of the articles "https://www.2carpros.com/articles/automatic-transmission-problems", it seems that there is little error when addressing stuck in park.
"Nine times out of then the problem will be a fuse, control solenoid or brake light switch". The then supposed to be ten. I don't know if I am right, I just observed
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Friday, November 5th, 2021 AT 5:39 AM
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I am attaching a guide to test the speed sensors. This is the best way to test each sensor individually. If you are going to test the combined pulses, then you really need a scan tool to just monitor the calculated speed.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/abs-wheel-speed-sensor-test

As for if one sensor is not reading correctly, it can affect the performance but normally the ABS will see that one wheel is not the same speed as the others and ignore it so that the speedometer and odometer are not off.

Thanks for picking that up. I will review it and make the changes. Thanks
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Friday, November 5th, 2021 AT 11:44 AM
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Thank you sir.
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Friday, November 5th, 2021 AT 1:46 PM
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Good morning, sir,
The pulse signal, can it be observed using oscilloscope?
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Friday, November 5th, 2021 AT 6:11 PM
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Yes. In fact, that would be the best tool to monitor them.

I don't have a known good pattern on your specific vehicle, but you would need to monitor each speed sensor and then the one that is faulty would stand out.

I am attaching a pattern from a standard speed sensor so I am sure your vehicle will look the same.
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Saturday, November 6th, 2021 AT 8:01 AM
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Thank you, sir.
Sir I sincerely apologize that I disturb too much.
Could I have circuit diagram displaying from the sensor to the ABS, ECU to the combination meter to the engine ECU.
Sincerely apologize again.
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Saturday, November 6th, 2021 AT 12:54 PM
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No problem. This is why we are here.

I am attaching the diagrams that are specific to this system. However, these signals are on what are called CAN communication networks.

Here is a guide that talks about these networks in case you need it:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/can-scan-controller-area-network-easy

Basically, the signals are given directly to the ABS, then they are sent to the combination via this bus network, then the combination meter decodes this message and then codes it again to send it to the ECM where it is able to decode it as well.

While that diagram showed it as a linear progression that is a little misleading. Meaning it does not go from one to another. The ABS sends this out on the network so the Combination and PCM get the message basically at the same time.

Take a look at this and let us know if you need more info.
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Saturday, November 6th, 2021 AT 3:08 PM
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You are welcome. Let us know how you make out and for continuing to use 2CarPros.
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Sunday, November 7th, 2021 AT 5:57 AM
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Good morning, sir,
Sir, in the diagram sent, it does not show the exact wires that are responsible for the communication.
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Monday, November 8th, 2021 AT 2:27 AM
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Sorry. You are correct. I didn't notice that. These are going to be the network lines, so I am attaching the entire diagram for the CAN network which includes these modules and the pins in the connector they are.
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Monday, November 8th, 2021 AT 9:07 AM
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Thank you sir, I will get back to you.
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Wednesday, November 17th, 2021 AT 5:14 AM

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