Clutch going bad it not working?

Tiny
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The clutch pedal was stuck on the floor. And it had no clutch at all. So figured it was best if I replaced everything I could on it. It hasn't ran in five years. It was my dad's truck. And he got sick and couldn't work on it so it just sat there until about a month ago. I've got it back running. Just stuck on this darn clutch, lol.
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Thursday, May 6th, 2021 AT 12:32 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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It was brake fluid and I dont think its the slave cylinder the moisture was around the line coming off the master cylinder the slave cylinder didnt have any fluid leaking around it
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Let me know what happens when you remove the slave. Something may be frozen up on the clutch if it sat.

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Joe
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Tiny
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Unless someone has recently had the master cylinder off, the line is not where you will find leakage. It would be at the rear of the master where the seals are. Lines don't "unseal" themselves.
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Thursday, May 6th, 2021 AT 12:32 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Update. Took the slave out and pedal still won't budge. Crack the bleeder valve open on the slave and the pedal will move. I'm at a complete loss. Please help
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Thursday, May 6th, 2021 AT 12:32 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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If it moves when you open the bleeder, the slave needs replaced. It must be frozen internally. If it was the clutch master cylinder, it still wouldn't move. If it was internal, it would move when removed.

I realize you already have it out, but wanted to at least provide the directions for bleeding. You will need to do that after it is replaced. The attached pictures correlate with the directions.

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1991 Chevy Truck C 1500 Truck 2WD V6-262 4.3L
System Bleeding
Vehicle Transmission and Drivetrain Clutch Service and Repair Procedures System Bleeding
SYSTEM BLEEDING
Bleeding Hydraulic Clutch Actuator

Pic 1

pic 2

Bleeding

1. Fill the reservoir with DOT 3 brake fluid.

Note: Never, under any circumstances, use fluid which has been bled from a system to fill the reservoir, as it may be aerated, have too much moisture content and possibly be contaminated.

2. Remove the secondary (slave) cylinder (27) and tip the bleeder screw (32) up.
3. Hold the clutch pedal down, open the bleeder screw (32) to let air and fluid escape, and close the bleeder screw (32). Let the clutch pedal up.
4. Repeat step 3 until all air is out of the system.

Note: Check and refill the reservoir as needed while bleeding so that air is not drawn into the system.

5. Install the secondary (slave) cylinder (27) and refill the reservoir if needed.

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Let me know if this helps. Also, let me know if it takes care of the problem.

Take care,
Joe
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Tiny
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That's with a brand new slave cylinder. After I bleed the system the pedal gets as hard as a rock.
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Tiny
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Waiting at a stop sign with clutch engaged, I went to release the clutch and it would attempt to take off but pedal stayed to floor and of course engine died. Even while waiting at stop sign tried to shift out of first and into neutral could not shift out of first gear then I take foot off of clutch ( pedal stays on floor) engine dies, for pedal to come back up I pumped a couple of times. When I tried again it worked fine, but after a couple of stops it did it again. Check master cylinder fluid was good. Checked for leaks, all the way down to slave cylinder. Now I took off side bolt? Don't know for sure about the rest of my explanation but here it is: I felt inside the hole and it was dry. I was expecting too feel some kind of oil but felt dry powdery stuff. If this is the slave cylinder, shouldn't there be oil in there? Had a person push clutch and the cylinder moved? So is the line clogged or what is it? Please help
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Tiny
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The slave is a sealed unit, so you wouldn't feel anything wet. As far as the powder, that is clutch material. Based on your description, it the slave is working, then my guess is the pressure plate is bad.
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Tiny
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Welcome back:

If the slave is removed and the pedal is hard, and when you open the bleeder you can depress the clutch pedal, you may have gotten a bad slave cylinder. Something is preventing the slave from allowing you to depress the clutch pedal. Now, if you told me you could press the clutch pedal without opening the bleeder once the slave was removed, then I would suspect the release bearing is frozen or there was an internal problem.

If the slave is new (and I have been wrong before so I can't guarantee this) I would return it under warranty and get a new one to see if it changes. With the slave out, you should be able to press the pedal because there isn't any resistance.

Let me know.

Joe
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Tiny
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Thanks for the info. Before I was able to read your response to my 89 chevrolet silverado slave cylinder I just decided to start from the top and eliminate the problem step by step. And to my luck the clutch master cylinder was the main problem, and so looking at the slave cylinder to be the next thing to replace. I appreciate your advice and info. More than likely you will be hearing from me again, on other vehicle problems. You were a great help!
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Tiny
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Okay, thanks you for your advice. I'll definitely try this in the morning and see what happens. So if I replace it again and it does the same thing. Hard pedal that won't move. Do you think it is the clutch plate or bearing?
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I'm glad you found the problem. That is actually better than the pressure plate. As far as questions in the future, let us know. We'll be glad to help.

Joe
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Tiny
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If the clutch pedal is stuck with the slave disconnected from the transmission, it is something between the clutch pedal and the slave. It wouldn't indicate an issue within the clutch assembly because it wouldn't be connected to it.

Let me know the results.

Joe
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Tiny
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I sure will. I'll work on that first thing tomorrow. Thanks again
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You are very welcome. I will watch for your reply.

Take care,
Joe
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Tiny
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So put the new slave in and same thing after needing the air the pedal is solid and won't move at all. What if I take the inspection plate off and gently tap the fork to see if it's just stuck? At this point I don't know what else to do.
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Tiny
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So with slave out still can't push the pedal down. I'm so lost.
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Tiny
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So latest update. Put another slave cylinder in I've had for a back up. And boom we now have a clutch. Took it around the neighborhood and shifted like new. Now I've just got to bottom up some small issues. Cutting out and things like that. But it's back on the road after six years of sitting/ thanks for your help Joe.
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Tiny
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Welcome back:

I'm happy to hear you got it going. I suspected the slave because you said when it was off the vehicle, it was still locked until you opened the bleeder. That's the only thing it could have been.

Regardless, it's great to hear after 6 years, it's going again.

Take care and let us know if you run into any trouble or need help.

Joe
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