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I am not exactly sure where you are in the process but I attached the procedure to follow through. You do not have to set it to TDC if you don't move the engine when the chain is off. As long as it goes back on the same positions then you are fine.

If you are not sure, then you will need to go through the timing procedure. Let me know if you need that process.

Here is the verification procedure. I would suggest reassembling it to this point and just checking it rather then going through the entire procedure because you don't know. It is pretty involved to re-time it, so if you rotate the engine by hand to this point and everything lines up then you are good.

Let me know if it is not correct and I will send you the procedure to time the engine.

Just saw your other update. So do you want the entire procedure based on the fact that you did not disassemble or they were able to get it back together for you? Just clarifying what you need. Thanks

Here is the process for the chains. Basically you are going to remove the chains and then rotate the crank and cams to the positions shown and then line the chain links up properly. There technically is no process for re-setting the timing because it tells you to lock the cams when removing the chain so you don't have to do this. So before you get the chain on just make sure each is in the correct location. Then you are going to need to lock the cams so you may need to go to the parts store and see if they have a cam locking tool set for this engine.

Okay, that is good. Let us know if you have issues. Get pictures of what you are dealing with if you run into something that you want some advice on. Thanks

Understood. Unfortunately the attachment is the best I have. You should only have two styles of bolts. M10 and M6. The diagram shows where each goes.

If you still have questions, get pictures of the bolts that you have and I will try to identify them for you. Try to group them so that you are only sending pictures of each type. It will be hard to make out what is what if they are in a group.

It does sound like a timing issue. I would do the verification process then that will determine next steps.

I totally get it. It is frustrating because this engine is not the easiest. However, I think we may have some confusion on what the 60 degree mention is. You should not be rotating the engine in order to set the cams up. You want the timing marks lined up but the engine stays in place.

Take a look at the first attachment as I think that explains where the 60 degrees is coming from which is that the timing mark is set at 60 degrees but that doesn't mean you move the crank when setting it up.

I attached the entire process for installing the timing chains. You don't need to worry about TDC because if you set it up on these marks, it will be in time. If this is the first time doing this engine, then pull number 1 plug and put a thin screwdriver in on the top of the piston and rotate the crank over with the chain off to see when it is aligned with the mark and you will see the screwdriver come up to correct position. Then you need to put the cams in the correct position for their timing marks and the engine will be in the correct position. When moving each one independently of each other, then the crank and cams can only be in one position on each revolution. In other words, each time the cam and crank come around, each piston and valve is in the same position, they are just in different positions as they relate to each other.

Hopefully this helps. Thanks.

Okay. Yeah pictures would help get me on the same page as you. Just post them whenever you get them. Thanks