1999 Plymouth Voyager Car sometimes does not want to start

Tiny
MONICA04
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  • 1999 PLYMOUTH VOYAGER
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 138,400 MILES
My 1999 Plymouth Voyager acts like it wants to turn over but doesn't. It usually happens in the morning when the car has been sitting for a while. I just had the water pump, fuel filer, fuel pump, radiator all just replaced. I have to turn crank the car up 2-3 times for it to start. I'm not sure on what to do next. Can you give me any advice?
Thursday, July 23rd, 2009 AT 11:12 PM

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Tiny
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Hello -

To better assist you is your model a Voyager, Voyager SE, Grand Voyager, Grand Voyager SE. Also can you tell me your engine size in liter.

Well let's check a couple of things. Please go to Auto Zone (AZ) or O'Reilly's (OR) and for FREE they can pull the codes to the car. Most important: Once they check your codes, if they find something and you don't get it fixed and need to get back with us, please make sure you tell us exactly what the code was, number and all. Example, if the code was E0568 O2 Sensor bad. Then make sure you give us all of that. While there for FREE also they can bring their tester out and check your battery and alternator.

Next, I know you just replaced the fuel pump... But, we need to figure out if it is electrical or fuel related. Pull a plug wire off of the spark plug and insert something into the end of it and have someone try to start the car and have the metal object really close to a piece of metal on the engine and see if you are getting a good strong popping blue spark. Don't have your hands on any part of the metal! If there is no spark, then it is electrical.

If you are getting good spark then spray some starting fluid in the throttle body and try to start it and see if it tries to start then.

You may need to get a fuel pressure check on the fuel pump to ensure it is putting out okay. We will see. You may have a bad fuel pump.

Also, after the car has run a while, shut it off and look all around the fuel injectors really well to see if there are any leaks.
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Friday, July 24th, 2009 AT 12:04 AM
Tiny
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My van is just a Voyager 2.4 Liter. Autozone no longer offers reading codes ( I just called). But I was just wondering if I would still get codes if my check engine light is not on? We have already checked the battery it is good but how do we have the alternator checked? I have not tried to pull the spark plugs but will do that next. As far as the fuel pump pressure can I still check it if the car is not acting up at that very moment?
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Friday, July 24th, 2009 AT 1:01 PM
Tiny
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Hello -

I apologize for the delay in getting back to you. I had some major technical problems with the old computer.

Okay... Thanks for your reply. Since AZ doesn't check it many have the tool check out program. The way this works, you pay for the tool..... Use it, and then bring it back and they give you your money back. It is best to either use cash or credit..... Don't use debit card as it takes a while to go back to the card. Please go to Auto Zone (AZ) or O'Reilly's (OR) and use their tool check out program and get the code scanner. Check your codes, if you find something and you don't get it fixed and need to get back with us, please make sure you tell us exactly what the code was, number and all. Example, if the code was E0568 O2 Sensor bad. Then make sure you give us all of that. If you are not sure how to use it then let me know and I will explain if they don't.

Yes, you vehicle can still throw a code and the light go out. Some times after you cycle the key the light goes out but the code remains. SRS lights no..... They are different.

Did you ask AZ about checking the alternator on the car? The way they do this is roll a machine out to your car, hook it up and they do a test on the battery..... Then they have you start it and run it about 2000 rpms and then they check the alternator. All free.....

Let's check the alternator first and the codes since the car is being normal. But have your stuff in the car ready to check the plugs and spray into the TB.

Also, next time it does this....... Have everything off and sit very quiet. Turn the key on and see if you can hear the fuel pump cycle and stop....... Sit there a second or two after the pump has stopped and then turn the key the rest of the way and see what it does.
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Monday, July 27th, 2009 AT 9:12 PM

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