PCM replaced & Fuel injector not working

Tiny
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  • 120,000 MILES
Hello,
I mistakenly reversed battery connection and the PCM got fried almost immediately.
After replacing PCM, some fuel injectors will not come on.
The first PCM turn on only injectors 1&2 and the second PCM turns only 1&4.
All injectors Resistance test shows 12.5ohms. Wiring harness to the PCM also have a good continuity(multimeter beeps).
if I plug the socket of one injector to the fuel injector, the continuity of its PCM terminal will also be redistributed and also have continuity to only the grounds of the other three terminals.
Wednesday, May 8th, 2024 AT 11:45 PM

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Tiny
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Hello, with all the injectors unplugged, key off, none of the injector control wires should have any continuity to ground at all. If they do, unplug the PCM connector and retest the injector control circuits for shorts to ground with all the injectors unplugged. There should be no paths to ground at all. Ill post a wiring diagram for you, Where did you get the new PCM?
Are you sure youre testing the correct wire, it sounds like youre checking continuity on the power feed with the one injector plugged in
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Thursday, May 9th, 2024 AT 12:04 PM
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Thank you for the response, after reading your message, I realize that I have to engage a professional to fix the wiring harness and the car was fine by changing the wire from the junction that supplies the Injectors and butterfly selenoids. The problem got fixed but the car will stall after some minutes when idling, whenn you start again it runs smoothly and stalls again after some minutes, lets say 3 minutes max.
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Thursday, May 16th, 2024 AT 10:34 PM
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With a battery reverse hook up, any number of different modules could have been damaged, which is usually the case. I would suspect a module issue more than a wiring problem. But determining what is failing just before the stall out can be tricky. It might be losing fuel pressure or spark causing the stall. Looking through the wiring diagrams, one model has a fuel pump resistor which varies the fuel pump speed.
Is it setting any codes in any modules due to the stall out?
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Friday, May 17th, 2024 AT 1:04 PM
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Yes, P0606 & P0606-ff, the issue of stalling actually started even before I reversed the battery, reversing the battery made me to have to change the PCM before I could have a spark and no Fuel good fuel injection which is now fixed except for the initial stalling problem which is still acting now.
A friend suggested the intake manifold as a whole. Could it be?
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Friday, May 17th, 2024 AT 2:57 PM
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And you were getting the same P0606 code prior to the battery issue I assume? That code is labeled as ECM/PCM Processor Error which if you have replaced the PCM already is being caused by some other issue. Another potential cause stated is "Ignition Switch Terminal (PCM Terminal 1AY) Circuit Shorted to Power" which is a bit strange because its a 12volt feed from ENGINE FUSE 20Amp to the ignition coils and other components so being shorted to power as a possibility doesnt make much sense. I do see a PCM Ground pin next to the 1AY pin, so Ill look into this code some more, but check the PCM connectors for any corrosion deep inside the connectors or possible spread connector pins,
A spread connector pin would make more sense to me being that this issue happens shortly after start up, If theres a PCM connector pin thats slightly spread, heat after start up is going to cause that pin to lose contact pretty quick.
Does the vehicle start right back up, or do you need to wait a certain amount of time?
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Friday, May 17th, 2024 AT 3:43 PM
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Where did the new PCM come from?
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Friday, May 17th, 2024 AT 3:44 PM
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Yes. It does start right back up as if nothing is wrong
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Friday, May 17th, 2024 AT 3:47 PM
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Ok first thing to check is this fuse, even if it looks ok, dont take that for granted, swap it out with a different 20Amp fuse and check the fuse location for any corrosion or spread pins, look closely at the fuse as well, does it look dark on the pins, like it has been over heating somewhat. This code can be misinterpreted by the PCM as an internal fault because of a lack of voltage. Thats the first thing to check,
Its in the passenger side junction box
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Friday, May 17th, 2024 AT 3:52 PM
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The PCM is actually preowned, usually gotten from junkyards or accident vehicles packed and shipped to Nigeria. Though I tried several PCM and it all has same issues
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Friday, May 17th, 2024 AT 3:52 PM
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Refresh this page so you can see my last post
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Friday, May 17th, 2024 AT 3:52 PM
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Ok. I will surely do that and get back to you. I really appreciate your help.
You last assisted me to fix which the moment I see your name I sigh with joy.
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Friday, May 17th, 2024 AT 3:58 PM
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Here is a very good video for you to watch, if youre having the same issues with different PCMs then its not the PCM. Its either going to be a battery, battery connection, or wiring to the PCM. Low voltage fluctuations can cause these strange PCM error codes, the PCM cant function normal when voltage drops out momentarily or a possible ignition coil is jumping to Ground and spiking the PCM, causing it to reset, shutdown, and it requires an engine restart. But watch this video, it will help you out a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj7SAn2F3V8
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Friday, May 17th, 2024 AT 4:00 PM
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Im glad to help if I can.
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Friday, May 17th, 2024 AT 4:01 PM
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Is it possible that the intake manifold will cause the issue of stalling? OBD scan shows no single fault with any of the manifold sensor but the repair shop is suggesting I should change the manifold as a whole
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Saturday, May 18th, 2024 AT 3:14 PM
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There is a variable intake manifold variable swirl shutter valve which will vary the air turbulence coming into the intake manifold under different engine loads, the idea is to improve the horsepower under different engine loads. This is the TSB about it sticking in colder weather but will set a code P2006. There are some PCM updates having to do with that issue. Im trying to find a decent picture of it, it looks like there is a rod that moves the shutter valve (2nd diagram). But usually what happens with these variable intake runner type designs, is because they are made of plastic like the intake manifold is, they eventually warp due to heat, and that causes them to stick in one position or another.
I dont know if it would effect the manifold enough to stall the engine or not. Sometimes I find that they are causing a vacuum leak, because the rod is external to the intake manifold, I find some leaking when doing a smoke test on the intake manifold.

If they can show you exactly why they think the intake manifold is causing the stall, thats a different story, but does the engine stall out even if try to give it some throttle?

In a case like this I would try to watch for whatever the engine is losing, such a fuel pressure, spark, or some voltage loss to the electrical system, instead of just replacing parts and hoping that solves the issue. That code (P0606) is an indication of what might really be happening. Does that code still set after the stall out? Because you could setup a multimeter somewhere and see if a voltage loss is causing the stall.
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Saturday, May 18th, 2024 AT 3:46 PM
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This is the circuit going to the PCM thats setting the P0606 code. Pin 1AY Green/Blue wire, it comes from that Engine Fuse 20Amp. If this circuit loses voltage, it throws off the PCMs operation. So you could monitor that wire, it should be 12v while running. And see if it drops out during the stall. The fact that you can restart the engine right away, tells me the PCM is most likely glitching out, Id hate to see you replace the intake manifold and still have the same issue.
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Saturday, May 18th, 2024 AT 4:05 PM
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Is this a California Emissions vehicle or Federal Emissions? It should say on the tag under the hood. Theres some differences with the PCM wiring depending on the emissions specs.
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Saturday, May 18th, 2024 AT 4:13 PM
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The first diagram is the California emissions with auto trans, with circuit 1AY being fed power from the Ignition Switch, the 2nd diagram is non Cali emissions auto trans with circuit 1AY is the Drive by Wire relay control wire, so it will not read 12volts when the ignition is on, whereas the Cali emissions vehicle will have 12volts on 1AY when the ignition switch is On. So thats the difference in circuit design.
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Saturday, May 18th, 2024 AT 4:31 PM
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These are the two different PCM connectors depending on the emissions regulations, and the pin 1AY to monitor the voltage level during the stall/fault condition. The 1AY pin is located in the same location either way with the Green/Blue wire.
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Saturday, May 18th, 2024 AT 4:57 PM

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