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No starter operation?

Tiny
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  • 1999 JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE
  • 4.0L
  • 6 CYL
  • 4WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 200,000 MILES
In spite of not starting like described previously in another question. The gauges are not working, fuel not working at all. Other gauges: temperature, battery, and oil sporadically. Also one wire of the fan is not connected and isolated with tape. Engine check not on when key is turn on. Used to read the codes by turning key 3 times, but it is not working any more. The codes I could read recently were: P1491, P1492, P0743, P 053, P1389, P0753, P0463, P0320, P0756
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Saturday, October 26th, 2019 AT 2:01 PM

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Tiny
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Hello,

This sounds like the instrument cluster has gone out or the ignition switch needs to be replaced. To be sure here is a guide to help you check the ignition switch. Have you checked all fuses? Here is a guide to help with that as well. Also clear the codes and then turn the key on to see which codes come up first.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-a-car-fuse

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-test-light-circuit-tester

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know what you find. We are interested to see what it is.

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Monday, October 28th, 2019 AT 12:54 PM
Tiny
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My ignition switch Mopar is brand new. Replaced recently before the problem. What is the cluster? Yes all fuses have been checked. I can't check relay don't understand how.
Why did you sent me these diagram?
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Saturday, November 2nd, 2019 AT 9:04 AM
Tiny
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The cluster is the instrument cluster, sorry, I gave you the diagrams so you can check the fuses before we continue. Let's clear the codes then turn the ignition key on without starting the engine and then run the codes again to see what comes up. this will be hard code which needs to be addressed first.

https://youtu.be/ahK_eucFi-k

Please run down this guide and report back.
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Saturday, November 2nd, 2019 AT 12:38 PM
Tiny
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I verified all relays and fuses they are good.
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Sunday, November 3rd, 2019 AT 1:52 PM
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Does the engine crank over but not start or not crank over? Can you please shoot a quick video with your phone so we can see what's going on? That would be great. You can upload it here with your response.
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Monday, November 4th, 2019 AT 11:56 AM
Tiny
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Yes, car cranks but not start. Didn't clear codes yet. Didn't understand how to do it. I don't have a code reader and no access yet to one.
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Monday, November 4th, 2019 AT 5:58 PM
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When the engine is cranking over does it sound okay? Will it run on starting fluid? When you turn the key to the on position without cranking the engine over can you hear the fuel pump run in the tank for 5 seconds? Please let me know I want to get this fixed for you.
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Tuesday, November 5th, 2019 AT 10:13 AM
Tiny
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When the engine is cranking over does it sound okay, since it used to start before by turning the key once. I can't compare to know if it starts well or not, but compare to the noise I can hear in other video or what other people told me mine starts slow like a low battery. However, my battery is new. But could this prevent the relay ASD from clicking? I don't hear any fuel pump noise. But there is like a tire cap in the motor that you can unscrew and by pushing the valve fuel is ejected with pressure. Someone told me is a proof the pump is working, true? Don't know what starting fluid is? I am not in the US where you can find everything fast. Thanks for your help, nice from you.
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Tuesday, November 5th, 2019 AT 3:21 PM
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Lets test the battery which can cause this issue (maybe you have a defective battery, it happens).

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-load-test

Please run down this guide and report back.
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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 2:57 PM
Tiny
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I disconnected the negative battery for 15 seconds many times as shown on video. Check engine sill on. I've tried the starting fluid and nothing, no start. I tried a new battery, no start. Going to test my battery.
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Sunday, November 10th, 2019 AT 6:58 AM
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Okay let me know, so the engine is not cranking over correct? (Starter not working)
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Monday, November 11th, 2019 AT 11:34 AM
Tiny
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I made a video of the noise of the car at starting how can I send it? Your email please or I send it here but how?
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Tuesday, November 12th, 2019 AT 10:33 AM
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You can upload it here with your response. Click the link below the response box. "ADD IMAGE OR VIDEO"
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Tuesday, November 12th, 2019 AT 10:41 AM
Tiny
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A friend tested the coil pack and the injector no electricity found, I bought a code tester, Creader V+, I can't find any code reading it keeps scanning and tell me I have to verify if I am connected to DLC, if ignition is on, and vehicle compliant with OBDII, I thought the tester was bad I tried it on 2 other cars. It reads their codes and gives results. However I see the yellow engine check after a few seconds. What does that mean?
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Saturday, November 23rd, 2019 AT 5:45 PM
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No power at the coil is telling us the ASD relay might not be working. check the diagrams above for the relay location and use this guide to help you test it:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-an-electrical-relay-and-wiring-control-circuit

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Tuesday, November 26th, 2019 AT 11:41 AM
Tiny
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ASD Relay tested, it is okay.
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Tuesday, November 26th, 2019 AT 1:23 PM
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It looks like we are back at the cluster. I would get a rebuild unit or used. Let me know.
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 11:52 AM
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Back on line didn't get the cluster yet going to, a electrician came tried to fix but still not starting when he left I have another problem the lights inside the car stay on even though the doors are closed . I bought a tester launch Creader V+ but not reading at all.
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Sunday, January 12th, 2020 AT 9:59 AM
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Can you try the scanner on a different car to see if it works?
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 11:35 AM
Tiny
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Yes, I tried the tester on 3 other cars it works fine.
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Wednesday, January 15th, 2020 AT 4:36 PM

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