Oil pressure not reading on gauge and excessive lifter chatter on the driver's side of the engine

Tiny
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  • 1987 FORD RANGER
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  • 240,000 MILES
This truck has sat for about 9 months to a year without being started or turned over. I received the truck on trade and the gentleman I got it from said it shut off one day in town and was done putting money in it. He did state when it last ran it was "a good running little truck". So, to get to the point I finally had time to look at it and I had no spark, so I replaced the plugs, plug wires, cap, rotor, pickup coil in the distributor, control module, and the main coil on the fender wall. After that I had spark, so I fired her up. Truck started immediately, only problem is I'm not getting an oil pressure reading on the gauge. The only concern is that I'm getting excessive lifter chatter on the driver's side of the motor. The truck sets on a slant and the passenger side sets lower than the drivers slightly. I will pull the oil cap and see if it's flowing. I'm wondering if it has set for so long the hydraulic lifters drained the oil and I need to do something there. When I started it, I only let it run for a maximum of about 30 seconds before I shut it down afraid of damaging anything. Any thoughts or suggestions would be very appreciated, thank you.
Monday, February 28th, 2022 AT 6:03 AM

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Tiny
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Hi,

Is the oil clean and full? When you indicate a ticking and no oil pressure, that leads me to think there truly is no pressure.

Here is what I suggest. Run to the parts store and borrow a mechanical oil pressure gauge. Most parts stores will lend you one free of charge.

Next, remove the oil pressure switch on the vehicle (electric) and basically screw in the mechanical gauge. Start the engine and see if there is pressure. If there isn't, turn it off.

Here is a link you may find helpful. It discusses the common causes of low/no oil pressure.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/high-or-low-engine-oil-pressure

Do this and let me know what you find. Also, if you could have someone record it when you restart it to check, upload it for me to hear.

I attached a pic below indicating the location of the oil pressure sending unit. It should be on the driver's side right above the oil pan.

I will watch for your reply.

Take care,

Joe

See pic below.
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Monday, February 28th, 2022 AT 6:14 PM
Tiny
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I tried to use my fuel pressure tester with all and every possible fitting it has but I couldn't get one to screw in that I felt comfortable wrenching on. I do know if I cross thread or strip that hole out, I'm really going to hate myself! I will go down to the parts store this afternoon and get the proper tester. I will say I did a few other things to it, like make sure the pump drive didn't fall in the oil pan which it did not. Once I got it back together, I started to check the gauge again and it didn't show pressure on the mechanical gauge in the cluster. I'm not showing an oil "idiot" light on the dash and the valvetrain noise is gone and the truck runs and sounds great. I didn't run it for more than a minute though since I'm not chancing that there truly is no oil pressure and I'll just get the tool and check it like a responsible car owner so I know for sure that pressure is there. Thank you for your response. I will update after I test it.
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Friday, March 4th, 2022 AT 8:00 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

That sounds like a plan. If the noise is gone, it sounds like there is oil pressure, but certainly, confirm it.

I will watch for your reply.

Take care,

Joe
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Friday, March 4th, 2022 AT 4:54 PM
Tiny
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Okay, since I couldn't rent the tool from any local parts stores, I just ordered one online. I got it today and hooked it up and found at the sending unit I got around 50 pounds of pressure on the gauge. The engine has some sludge in it so I'll be flushing the oil system as good as I can without disassembling the motor. I did notice some sludge where the sending unit goes into the block, so I cleaned some out with q tips and after I put it back together it actually read a very little bit on the gauge on the dash. I'll just flush the system and order a new sending unit since sludge probably got up in the unit and is affecting it. I am not getting a reading on my temperature gauge either, but I'll test that sending unit for engine temp tomorrow. Thanks for all the help. After this I'll try and see if the 4wd works. The overhead unit that controls it does not light up when I select it, but I don't know if maybe the lights went out or it actually does not work. The previous owner said he never used it so we will see.
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Monday, March 7th, 2022 AT 5:25 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

It does sound like sludge is an issue. Let me know what happens after you flush the engine. I'm interested in knowing.

Take care,

Joe
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Monday, March 7th, 2022 AT 5:40 PM
Tiny
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I decided not to flush the entire engine completely, just an old motor and didn't want to create new problems. Runs awesome, I have a new oil pressure sending unit in there and the gauge works as it should, and so does the temp since that wasn't working either so I replaced that unit also after testing the gauge worked. I thought at first glance the oil looked "okay" before changing but once I started draining it, I realized it was worse than I anticipated. All I need to do now before selling it replace the windshield and figure out the 4wd. It has the electric system (switches above rearview mirror). I'm assuming the motor on the transfer case may be the issue. What are your thoughts and where should I start? I have never owned or worked on a 4wd system of this kind, so I have no idea (miss the old hub locking type, lol). Thank you for the help once again.
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Monday, March 14th, 2022 AT 4:06 PM
Tiny
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I'd like to inject a couple comments of value as you guys continue your conversation.

Back in the mid '80s I watched two coworkers flush the oil on large cars they bought cheap when gas prices went way up. One was a late '70s Impala and one was a Continental. They dumped a quart of transmission fluid into the oil, then drained and changed it a few days later. I never had the guts to try that, but it apparently had worked for them on other engines.

In 1976 I bought a used '72 Dodge Dart, 318, 60,000 miles. Had to replace the valve cover gaskets and found 1/4" of sludge build up inside them. Installed a bypass oil filter that used a roll of toilet paper. Years later had the valve covers off again at 120,000 miles. They were spotless that time. I still use one of those filters on an '80 Volare.

Given the continuous improvement in oil, I have a suspicion sludge will be taken care of with regular oil changes. If you look at the ratings on the container, you'll see something like "SE" or "CF". The "S" stands for "spark ignition engines", and the "C" stands for "compression ignition engines", (diesels). The second letters become the next one higher when a significant improvement occurs, often to meet engine manufacturer requirements. Back in '87, the ratings were around "SD" or "SE". What that means is unless you have a stash of really old "new" oil on the shelf, anything you can buy today is going to go way beyond the requirements for your engine. There's detergents, dispersants, seal conditioners, anti-foaming agents, and corrosion inhibitors that are all being improved all the time.

I have an '88 Grand Caravan with a knock in the engine that I thought was going to be fatal, so I wasn't about to waste money on oil changes. As an experiment, I didn't change the oil for over 14 years and 260,000 miles. I did replace the filter every year, and I added a quart every 1,000 miles. Word was there's enough additives in one quart of oil to keep the engine happy. I was still getting three quarts of additives every 3,000 miles. That van dragged an enclosed tandem axle trailer to an old car show swap meet for 15 years. The trailer was bigger and heavier than the van. The 3.0L Mitsubishi-built engine has a reputation for a rather weak lower end, yet it held up to this abuse until the van got so rusty, the carpet was the only thing holding the front and rear together.

What you might consider, rather than flushing the oil, is just two or three oil changes about 500 miles apart. Most sludge will be dissolved right away, then that will be held in suspension and circulate until it is drained out. Little more sludge will be cleaned away once the oil is holding all it can, so draining it out right away lets you start with a new batch of clean oil sooner. Be sure to replace the filter each time. Some contaminants can solidify inside the cool filter and block it, then the oil has to flow through the bypass valve and won't get filtered.
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Monday, March 14th, 2022 AT 4:41 PM
Tiny
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Thank you for that and I did read something on here that made me originally decide not to "flush" the system. I am still wondering if someone could help me to determine the 4wd issue. I have checked the fuses and such and have not found any problems. How can I test the motor on the transfer case for the 4wd system, or where should I start my diagnosis? Thank you again.
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Tuesday, March 15th, 2022 AT 5:34 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

We would be happy to help with the 4wd issue. However, would it be possible for you to copy and paste your new question to a new thread? We try to keep threads specific to one topic. That way, it's more helpful to others.

Here is the link to start the new thread:

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/new

I hope you understand.

Take care,

Joe

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Wednesday, March 16th, 2022 AT 1:02 PM

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