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Tiny
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Had all my my timing marks aligned.
Engine free spins not starting
I noticed when I was timing my crankshaft marks the engine was very easy to turn definitely not on the compression stroke. Could it be it was on the exhaust stroke? And it's 180 out? I'm not going to touch it until I hear back from you guys. It's a lot of work to get down to the plugs. There has to be easier way to tell when your top dead center. Everything looks good except it won't start. I hope if the timing is out I didn't bend any valves spinning the motor. It's definitely an interference motor. Thanks JC
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Friday, June 28th, 2019 AT 3:48 PM

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Tiny
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Welcome to 2CarPros.

Duplicate / see other post.
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Friday, June 28th, 2019 AT 8:49 PM
Tiny
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I used the timing marks exactly as described but I don't think it's lined up on compression stroke shouldn't the crankshaft be hard to turn when coming up on TDC? I hate to take the top valve cover and all that junk off to find out if number one cylinder is up all the way. If you use a new belt it doesn't matter how it goes on does it Joe?
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Friday, June 28th, 2019 AT 8:57 PM
Tiny
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Welcome back:

TDC is determined by the mark on the crankshaft pulley and the timing chain cover. See attached picture. As far as the belt, if it is new, there is no required points that have to match. Just make sure the timing marks are aligned.

Did the original belt break? I believe this to be an interference engine. It is a DOHC engine, correct?

Let me know.

Joe
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Friday, June 28th, 2019 AT 9:40 PM
Tiny
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Yes its an interference motor and no the belt was good. I think the crankshaft was a little bit out and when I turned it back I noticed it clicked. Im wondering can you bend the valves if it's not in time And you spin the engine over? And the belt is on? I know your not suppose to turn the engine with the belt off. Oh by the way I'm not using the belt that came with the kit. I bought a dayco belt the kit is a DNJ. I'll count the teeth tommorow and make sure it's 168 teeth. Thanks Joe. JC
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Friday, June 28th, 2019 AT 11:01 PM
Tiny
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Welcome back:

Yes, you can cause internal damage if with the belt on if it is not timed correctly. The belt, even if it jumps and doesn't break while the engine is turning will cause damage. Did that happen? If it did and you had the belt in time but the engine turned fast, that indicated little or no compression.

Let me know and I advise what to do next.

Joe
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Saturday, June 29th, 2019 AT 6:00 PM
Tiny
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No it did not.
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Saturday, June 29th, 2019 AT 6:25 PM
Tiny
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That's good. Let me know how you make out with getting things back together. Also, if you need help, don't be afraid to ask.

Take care,
Joe
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Saturday, June 29th, 2019 AT 7:19 PM
Tiny
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Okay, thank you. I'm having a hard time keeping these cam gears in the right spot while installing the belt and tensioner. Seems like one of the cam gears is out a tooth every time. Have to try and find a tool to help keep em from moving.
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Saturday, June 29th, 2019 AT 7:33 PM
Tiny
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Exactly. I believe there is a special tool to do that. Often times a nationally recognized parts store will lend or rent you the tool.
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