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Tiny
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Put 3 new relays in and it still doesn't get spark when the fuel pump gets power. I'm thinking either it's wiring or the computer is messed up.
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Tuesday, July 16th, 2019 AT 4:15 PM
Tiny
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It also pulls a bunch of codes about stuff being shorted to ground with the relay in.
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Tuesday, July 16th, 2019 AT 4:17 PM
Tiny
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Yep it does sounds like the PCM is bad, lets try a rebuilt/used unit to see what happens. Also did you use the wiring diagrams in the post I left, how did it turn out?
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Wednesday, July 17th, 2019 AT 12:32 PM
Tiny
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So now it has got to the point where I can't even connect my code reader to the car. Can I get a PCM out of a pull a part and put it in and it work if its a good one or would I have to have it flashed?
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Wednesday, July 17th, 2019 AT 6:32 PM
Tiny
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Most of the time a used one will work, but you can order a rebuild unit and give them your VIN to be sure. Let me know
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Thursday, July 18th, 2019 AT 9:21 AM
Tiny
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Is the pcm behind the gauges or on the passenger side?
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Friday, July 19th, 2019 AT 5:50 PM
Tiny
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Here is the location of the PCM. Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know what happens.
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Saturday, July 20th, 2019 AT 10:45 AM
Tiny
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Hopefully going to get a pcm tomorrow so I will let you know what happens. Does it have to have the same numbers or anything?
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Monday, July 22nd, 2019 AT 10:17 AM
Tiny
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Yep, same numbers and it might need to be programmed to the car. Some used ones will work but it is not 100%.
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Monday, July 22nd, 2019 AT 10:59 AM
Tiny
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Put another PCM in and still nothing.
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Tuesday, July 30th, 2019 AT 1:39 PM
Tiny
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We must have missed something. Lets start over. Does the engine crank over? Can you please shoot a quick video with your phone so we can see what's going on? That would be great. You can upload it here with your response.
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Wednesday, July 31st, 2019 AT 10:02 AM
Tiny
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Yes it cranks over. I have all 3 versions of the fuel pump relay and tried them all. 2 coil packs and tried them both. 2 crank sensors and tried them both. 3 ignition switches and tried them all. The coil gets power but not putting out spark. I just dont get it. I'll add a video when I get a chance to take one.
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Friday, August 2nd, 2019 AT 12:28 PM
Tiny
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Does the engine have compression will it run on starting fluid?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-engine-compression
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Saturday, August 3rd, 2019 AT 9:53 AM
Tiny
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It did run on starting fluid but I haven't tried it in a while. I'm going to mess with the fuses some more and see what happens.
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Tuesday, August 6th, 2019 AT 5:13 AM
Tiny
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The sound quality is bad. Here is a video:
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Tuesday, August 6th, 2019 AT 1:01 PM
Tiny
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So fuses still don't change anything. Was able to get it to stumble a little bit on starting fluid. I'm starting to think maybe it has a fuel problem instead or both since it's hard to get it to start on starting fluid.
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Wednesday, August 7th, 2019 AT 3:11 PM
Tiny
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It sounds like it has compression so don't worry about that. Can you hear the fuel pump run in the tank for 5 seconds when the key is turned on without cranking the engine over?
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Wednesday, August 7th, 2019 AT 4:29 PM
Tiny
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Yes the fuel pump kicks on. Everything is doing what its supposed to do except I can't see any spark. The coil pack is getting the power and everything it needs to work but it doesn't.
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Thursday, August 8th, 2019 AT 10:26 AM
Tiny
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Unless the plugs and wires are bad and that is why there's no spark.
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Thursday, August 8th, 2019 AT 10:28 AM
Tiny
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Checked power to fuses again and there is no power to fuse 32 with key on. Could this be my problem?
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Thursday, August 8th, 2019 AT 1:07 PM

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