Truck shut off going down the road would not restart

Tiny
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  • 1992 DODGE DAKOTA
  • 5.2L
  • V8
  • 4WD
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  • 124,000 MILES
ASD relay good and have power to the green/orange tracer wire. The black/gray tracer wire pluses when it's not plugged into the coil while cranking the engine. Plugged into the coil the black/gray stays steady when cranking the engine. I replaced the PCM and it will start one time in the morning and never start the rest of the day. Next morning truck starts runs 10 seconds shuts off never starts again rest of the day.
Sunday, September 15th, 2019 AT 5:23 PM

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Tiny
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Welcome to 2CarPros.

When it doesn't start, what is missing, fuel or spark? If it's spark, have you checked the pick-up coil in the distributor. They control spark and fuel.

Let me know.

Joe
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Sunday, September 15th, 2019 AT 6:01 PM
Tiny
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The pick-up coil/ cam sensor has infinite ohms and is good but I got a new one test the ohms same. Inst9the new pick-up coil, router bug, and cap. Started and died never to fire again till tomorrow more than likely.
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Monday, September 16th, 2019 AT 3:48 PM
Tiny
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Have you checked for diagnostic trouble codes?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/retrieve-trouble-codes-for-chrysler-dodge-plymouth-odb1-1995-and-earlier-car-mini-van-and-light-trucks

Let me know.

Joe
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Monday, September 16th, 2019 AT 5:58 PM
Tiny
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Joe

Had a code of 54 by the check engine light cam sensor. I even checked the factory wires they splice seems okay. Only get 9v to ground on the orange one.
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Tuesday, September 17th, 2019 AT 9:29 AM
Tiny
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Joe,

Also has an 11 code to no crank.
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Tuesday, September 17th, 2019 AT 12:39 PM
Tiny
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Do me a favor, check to see if it has spark when it fails to start. The code 54 is related to the injection. If we know it's getting spark, then we can confirm it is fuel related. A 54 can be caused by a poor connection at the power module. Also, check the wiring between the O2 sensor and the harness. A grounded signal wire will set this code and prevent it from starting.

Now the 11 indicates there is no signal from the pick up coil that you replaced. Since the vehicle does start for a bit once a day, then I don't feel it is the ecm you installed. However, the idea that it runs for a short time, dies and won't restart till the next day leads me to believe it pressurizes the fuel system and uses that till it runs out and then the system refuses to reprime the fuel system.

Regardless, the schematics I'm looking at do not indicate wire color, so I have to ask what the orange wire is going to. I also attached three pics below indicating areas I feel need inspected. You will need to disconnect the ECM. However, only disconnect and reconnect the ECM with the battery disconnected.

Take a look at the pics. Sorry there is nothing indicating color, but the ECM pins are indicated and the pins on the components show which wire goes where.

Let me know if this helps.

One last thing, years ago I had a no start on a 92 Dakota. There was no spark. There was a red / white wire or white / red wire that went from the ECM to the pick up coil. There was a splice about 12" in from the PCM that is known to corrode and cause this type of issue.

Also, I dealt with a 93 dakota that would run, start missing, stall, and then not restart. By luck, I caught the MAP sensor failing and causing the issue. That was on a scanner and trying to drive and watch live data is not recommended. LOL

Let me know what you find. Make sure the pins on the ECM plug are no pushed in or corroded.

Let me know what you find.

Joe
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Tuesday, September 17th, 2019 AT 7:21 PM

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