1996 Mercury Sable Code 1152

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1996 mercury sable 125,000 miles
I am still drawing a 1152-mfg control Fuel Air Metering code
I had to replace the Cats and have swapped out the MAP
ANY SUGGESTIONS?
the o2 sensors are ok... broke 1 but replaced it and the code is clear
Also... I am trying to get the Catalyst Monitor to reset and have not been able to accomplish this.
Thanks fo ranty help in advance
Cam
Dec 5, 2006 at 7:06 AM
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[quote:2fd215dd0f="cmyers"]1996 mercury sable 125,000 miles
I am still drawing a 1152-mfg control Fuel Air Metering code
I had to replace the Cats and have swapped out the MAP
ANY SUGGESTIONS?
the o2 sensors are ok... broke 1 but replaced it and the code is clear
Also... I am trying to get the Catalyst Monitor to reset and have not been able to accomplish this.
Thanks fo ranty help in advance
Cam[/quote:2fd215dd0f]

Hey cam,
Some questions first,

1. the O2's you replaced where not post cat?
2. the fuel control O2's operation where verified on scan data stream or labsbope?
any other info would help me more!
As to the cat monitor status ..... keep drivin' it, do you have access to "drive cycle" info, this may speed up the process for you

Regards,

Chris
Dec 5, 2006 at 8:28 AM
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[quote:74a338102c]1. the O2's you replaced where not post cat?
2. the fuel control O2's operation where verified on scan data stream or labsbope?
any other info would help me more!
As to the cat monitor status ..... keep drivin' it, do you have access to "drive cycle" info, this may speed up the process for you

1) the O2 is pre cat...long story short... replaced cats KICKED O2 ...Broken...AGGG!! replaced w/new that test low signal (2 different ones)... tried both spots... replaced w/a used one works great now...$58.00 wasted...
2) have not on a labscope... on my scanner I have
eng rpm 1352
load val 74.5%
temp 204
short term fuel trim 1 - 3.1%
long 1 - -4.9%
short 2 - .8%
long 2 - 4.6%
short 3 - -54.6%
long 4 - 5.4%
short term fuel trim 4 - 1.5%
at 37 mph
don't know if this helps.
I have the drive cycle instructions... the cat doesnt seem to reset though.
Cam [/quote:74a338102c]
Dec 5, 2006 at 8:54 AM
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[quote:a21c12b409="cmyers"][quote:a21c12b409]1. the O2's you replaced where not post cat?
2. the fuel control O2's operation where verified on scan data stream or labsbope?
any other info would help me more!
As to the cat monitor status ..... keep drivin' it, do you have access to "drive cycle" info, this may speed up the process for you

1) the O2 is pre cat...long story short... replaced cats KICKED O2 ...Broken...AGGG!! replaced w/new that test low signal (2 different ones)... tried both spots... replaced w/a used one works great now...$58.00 wasted...
2) have not on a labscope... on my scanner I have
eng rpm 1352
load val 74.5%
temp 204
short term fuel trim 1 - 3.1%
long 1 - -4.9%
short 2 - .8%
long 2 - 4.6%
short 3 - -54.6%
long 4 - 5.4%
short term fuel trim 4 - 1.5%
at 37 mph
don't know if this helps.
I have the drive cycle instructions... the cat doesnt seem to reset though.
Cam [/quote:a21c12b409][/quote:a21c12b409]

Cam,

1. do you have the ability to graph your O2's on your scanner?
2. STFT @ 3- -54.6 looks to be the culprit unless I'm reading your data wrong, which O2 is that referring to?
3. forgot to mention you may not be able to set the cat monitor as your fuel control O2's are in question, not too sure about fords strategies on the monitors test runs ....

Chris
Dec 5, 2006 at 9:10 AM
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Chris,
I can not graph O2 sensor
But i do have a couple now so maybe I will start switching them around!
Thanks for your help.
If you have any other ideas let me know.

Do you think the O2 will cause the MAF to show a code?

Thanks again,
Cam
Dec 5, 2006 at 9:37 AM
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[quote:5a5fa5e317="cmyers"]Chris,
I can not graph O2 sensor
But i do have a couple now so maybe I will start switching them around!
Thanks for your help.
If you have any other ideas let me know.

Do you think the O2 will cause the MAF to show a code?

Thanks again,
Cam[/quote:5a5fa5e317]

Your showing a MAF code too??? or are your referring to the code description you've got? mfr fuel air metering refers to an O2 condition pending, fuel air metering =O2 or A/F sensor (on most asian applications) pm me if ya need to!

Chris
Dec 5, 2006 at 9:43 AM

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Identify the oxygen sensor tied to the extreme short-term fuel trim near -54.6% on bank 3, then graph or swap the upstream sensors and confirm fuel control. Code 1152 indicates an oxygen-sensor fuel-air metering condition, not a MAF fault by itself. The catalyst monitor may not complete until fuel-control oxygen sensors are verified; then repeat the drive cycle.

Conversation Summary

The owner of a 1996 Mercury Sable reports persistent code 1152 after replacing the catalytic converters and MAP sensor. A pre-cat oxygen sensor was broken during the work and replaced; a used sensor now operates normally. Scan data shows one short-term fuel trim near -54.6%. The expert identifies that trim as the likely problem, explains that the code refers to an oxygen-sensor fuel-air metering condition rather than a MAF fault, and says the catalyst monitor may not set until fuel-control oxygen sensors are verified.

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